Author Topic: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised  (Read 35427 times)

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Offline gilet

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2013, 03:41:14 AM »
Please have some respect and read the posts you are replying to.

There is nothing in my post which suggests Amaral should reveal anything to me and you would know that if you bothered to read.

My post made it very clear that he should give his evidence to the police not hold it to the end as Redblossom claimed.  It is his duty as a citizen to report evidence about a crime to the police (if he has any).

Your post is a hysterical rant based on nothing at all that I posted.

pls dont misquote me, i never said he held evidence back, as you pontificate, read the posts properly

I did not even quote you, never mind misquote you.

What I accurately reported you as implying was that Amaral was holding his evidence till the end and therefore not revealing it even to the police which it is his duty to do.

Careful reading does pay dividends when you are seeking the truth.

your post suggested that I said amaral had evidence that he never reported to the police, so therefore, yes, it was a misquote of what i posted earlier on in the thread, which WAS, not that he is withholdong evidence but that he is not TALKING about in in public,streugh like getting blood out of a stone

Your post

My post made it very clear that he should give his evidence to the police not hold it to the end as Redblossom claimed

As I never even quoted you, I cannot have (as you have now claimed twice) misquoted you.

Your post said that aces were for holding to the end, and the clear implication was that this is what Amaral is doing.

I therefore correctly stated that such a move would be wrong as withholding evidence "to the end" is wrong. It is wrong. I stand by what I posted.

Redblossom

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2013, 03:47:13 AM »
You didnt quote my exact words but commented on what you thought they meant, which was wong on your part

i never ONCE suggested Mr Amaral had evidence which he hid or was not part of the investigation as revealed in the files

I only suggested that he might state certain things on public FROM the investigation

Offline gilet

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2013, 03:49:22 AM »
You said that aces were to be held back till the end.

There was a clear implication that you were claiming that was what Amaral was doing.

I repeat. I stand by what I said and in no way did I misquote or misinterpret your claim.

Redblossom

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2013, 03:51:58 AM »
You said that aces were to be held back till the end.

There was a clear implication that you were claiming that was what Amaral was doing.

I repeat. I stand by what I said and in no way did I misquote or misinterpret your claim.

Just your interpretation of what an ace is as was mine must an interpretation, nothing less nothng more

Offline gilet

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2013, 03:54:20 AM »
No, it was not my interpretation of what an ace is.

It was your statement that an ace is to be held to the end.

And as we were discussing Amaral's ace then it was perfectly clear that you were suggesting that was what he is doing.

And that is simply wrong.


Redblossom

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2013, 03:58:19 AM »
No, it was not my interpretation of what an ace is.

It was your statement that an ace is to be held to the end.

And as we were discussing Amaral's ace then it was perfectly clear that you were suggesting that was what he is doing.

And that is simply wrong.

Nope, no evidence that any evidence is being concealed by him, just your interpretation, an ace is a card to be played, could be anything, and you dont know

Offline gilet

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2013, 04:37:40 AM »
It wasn't my interpretation though was it?

It was you who said he was holding it to the end.

And the more you claim it was me the more stupid you look.

Its interesting discovering that you really have no argument.

The plain fact is that he is withholding this ace/evidence and should not be doing so.

Redblossom

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2013, 04:40:24 AM »
It wasn't my interpretation though was it?

It was you who said he was holding it to the end.

And the more you claim it was me the more stupid you look.

Its interesting discovering that you really have no argument.

The plain fact is that he is withholding this ace/evidence and should not be doing so.

its YOUR interpetration of what I said still, sigh, fill your boots

ferryman

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2013, 10:31:32 AM »


pls dont misquote me, i never said he held evidence back, as you pontificate, read the posts properly


Red Blossom

thats why its called an ace, you dont get to see it till the end,

Red Blossom

Offline Eleanor

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2013, 11:44:51 AM »

Did Amaral ever say he has an Ace?  Is this another Forum Myth to give the detractor "Hope?'

Anyone got a link, or was it just made up, like a lot of other things?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2013, 12:26:18 PM »

It's ridiculous to suggest he's got an Ace if he hasn't got one.  And even more ridiculous to suggest that he is keeping it to himself, to be revealed during The Libel Trial, like one of them TV Lawyers.

Nope, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he ain't that stupid.

ferryman

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2013, 12:37:29 PM »
I think the "ace" (probably an English idiom without an exact equivalent in Portuguese) stemmed from Amaral's rhetoric, Soon, very soon, the world will know the TRUTH (or words to that effect).

That certainly implied revelations to come that is probably the provenance of the concept of the "ace".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2013, 12:48:18 PM »
I think the "ace" (probably an English idiom without an exact equivalent in Portuguese) stemmed from Amaral's rhetoric, Soon, very soon, the world will know the TRUTH (or words to that effect).

That certainly implied revelations to come that is probably the provenance of the concept of the "ace".

Well, he was certainly right about that.  The World does now know a lot of things about him that I bet he wishes they didn't.  Lots of stuff that happened long before The McCanns ever considered going to Portugal.

And I bet he wishes he had never written his wretched book.

icabodcrane

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2013, 04:58:53 PM »
I don't know about having 'an Ace to play'  in the up-coming libel trial, but I suppose there is a possibility that hitherto unknown information, damaging to the McCanns, might be revealed

It occured to me on another thread that the McCanns were completely unaware of the existance of Lee Rainbow's report, for instance

Their lawyer was clearly unprepared and offered no rebuttal to the claims made in court by Amaral's lawyer regarding Rainbow's report  ...  and I recall Gerry subsequently appearing flustered outside the court room

The Rainbow report had been kept confidential, and I wonder if that is because it was part of the British police evidence that the McCanns were denied access to when they applied for it in court

It is certainly within the realms of possibility that  other damaging evidence is contained in those British police files that the McCanns have not been allowed to see ...  which may, yet, emerge if their legal action against Amaral goes ahead

ferryman

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Re: Where Is Amaral's Ace He Promised
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2013, 05:15:14 PM »
Their lawyer was clearly unprepared and offered no rebuttal to the claims made in court by Amaral's lawyer regarding Rainbow's report

No rebuttal was needed.  Rainbow's report didn't contain what Cabrita claimed.