How many episodes of dog alerts were suggestive of cadaver odor?

[AnneGuedes]

The more The McCanns turned the other cheek, the worse he got.

I don't remember having seen this.
When you despise someone because s(h)e takes you for what you're not, isn't it better to just ignore ?

So you would ignore if someone persistently accused you of killing your child, and then dropped leaflets to that effect into the doors of your neighbours?

Yes, Eleanor, I think this kind of behaviour only judges those who adopt it. It's not easy to stay serene, sure, but I can't figure out another reaction which would be dignifying.

[AnneGuedes]

Eleanor, if someone persistently accused you of killing your child
I hadn't read this correctly, likely because GA never accused Madeleine's parents to have killed her.
Ignoring is an option but there's another one, tougher : criticizing and arguing step by step the contradictory thesis.

[Eleanor]

The more The McCanns turned the other cheek, the worse he got.

I don't remember having seen this.
When you despise someone because s(h)e takes you for what you're not, isn't it better to just ignore ?

So you would ignore if someone persistently accused you of killing your child, and then dropped leaflets to that effect into the doors of your neighbours?

Yes, Eleanor, I think this kind of behaviour only judges those who adopt it. It's not easy to stay serene, sure, but I can't figure out another reaction which would be dignifying.

Despite the fact that he had stood outside your house taking photographs of your home at dusk?

You are probably right, and I simply do not know what I would have done.  But I do think that even I would have had a breaking point.  We just don't know how far he would have gone or what he would have done next.

[Eleanor]

Eleanor, if someone persistently accused you of killing your child
I hadn't read this correctly, likely because GA never accused Madeleine's parents to have killed her.
Ignoring is an option but there's another one, tougher : criticizing and arguing step by step the contradictory thesis.

Mr. Bennett did accuse them of killing their child.

[AnneGuedes]

Eleanor, if someone persistently accused you of killing your child
I hadn't read this correctly, likely because GA never accused Madeleine's parents to have killed her.
Ignoring is an option but there's another one, tougher : criticizing and arguing step by step the contradictory thesis.

Mr. Bennett did accuse them of killing their child.

Oh I thought  Mr Bennett accused them of neglect ! Actually, Eleanor, I never was interested in this guy whom I find sort of lunatic obsessed by an idée fixe.

[debunker]

I guess the next time we'll have something new to say is when the libel trial happens  (   if it ever does )

I've a feeling it will not.

mccanns have everythng to lose going ahead with it imo, so they will back out of their ill conceived vexatious money grabbing  litigation, all signs pointing they already tried to by teying to get Mr Amaral to settle out of court

If you were in the McCann's shoes Redblossom and Amaral libelled you in that he claimed that you were directly involved in the disappearance of your child, would you just sit back and take it?

If you were in the  McCann's shoes John, and Amaral libellelled you in that he claimed you were directly involved in the disappearance of your child  ...  would you give him the opportunity to settle out of court  ?

The McCanns have used the courts very cleverly to meet their goals which has been to control the defamation rather than make money out of it. The Express case ensured that the British Press (and consequently much of the foreign press which distributes in the UK) stuck carefully to factual statements about the case, aware that if they could not substantiate stories, that they would lose in Court. They have avoided actions against Forums and blogs which have minimal effect, but picked off Tony Bennet who was beginning to get traction. Their action against him has probably ensured that future defamatory lies will stay firmly on the internet in little unknown sites. What is left is the other tall poppy with some traction- a Portuguese Policeman who has pubkished a defamatory book which might be taken seriously by people who were not aware of the final statements about the case.

[debunker]

Back to the subject of the OP. NO-one has yet contradicted my identification of only three possible sets of alerts for Cadaver odor.

Do we agree that three is the maximum?

[icabodcrane]

Back to the subject of the OP. NO-one has yet contradicted my identification of only three possible sets of alerts for Cadaver odor.

Do we agree that three is the maximum?

I disagree

Consider this scenario :

A child  climbs to the back of the sofa to look out the window  (  for mum and Dad ) ... she falls heavily on the tiled floor and is fatally injured.  She bleeds, and dies,  in that spot

In that case,  both dogs would alert,  would they not ?

The suggestion that cadaver scent can only exist where the cadaver dog,  alone,  alerts is flawed ...  where both bleeding and death has occured, then both cadaver and blood dog would alert

Your assertion that there were only three possible alerts for cadaver odour is, therefore,  incorrect

[Redblossom]

Back to the subject of the OP. NO-one has yet contradicted my identification of only three possible sets of alerts for Cadaver odor.

Do we agree that three is the maximum?

I disagree

Consider this scenario :

A child  climbs to the back of the sofa to look out the window  (  for mum and Dad ) ... she falls heavily on the tiled floor and is fatally injured.  She bleeds, and dies,  in that spot

In that case,  both dogs would alert,  would they not ?

The suggestion that cadaver scent can only exist where the cadaver dog,  alone,  alerts is flawed ...  where both bleeding and death has occured, then both cadaver and blood dog would alert

Your assertion that there were only three possible alerts for cadaver odour is, therefore,  incorrect

Agree with that, you have said what I was thinking.

Going back to the other thread on this issue, there were alerts by Eddie that dont seem to have been followed by Keela or at least the info is not on the partial video we have or in the files, for whatever reason, where  Keela should have been sent in, so saying a maximum of three is presumptious and not set in stone.

[Redblossom]

Why did Amaral say, these dogs were trained using human cadavars?  >@@(*&)

Because they were as well as pig cadavers, unlesz you want to call Mr Grime a liar as ferryman has consistently done with no proof

[debunker]

Back to the subject of the OP. NO-one has yet contradicted my identification of only three possible sets of alerts for Cadaver odor.

Do we agree that three is the maximum?

I disagree

Consider this scenario :

A child  climbs to the back of the sofa to look out the window  (  for mum and Dad ) ... she falls heavily on the tiled floor and is fatally injured.  She bleeds, and dies,  in that spot

In that case,  both dogs would alert,  would they not ?

The suggestion that cadaver scent can only exist where the cadaver dog,  alone,  alerts is flawed ...  where both bleeding and death has occured, then both cadaver and blood dog would alert

Your assertion that there were only three possible alerts for cadaver odour is, therefore,  incorrect

NO. See my post on apples and oranges.

An alert by eddie without an absence from keela does not increase our orinal knowledge.

THere are only three sets of results which indicate that cadaver odor is present.

[icabodcrane]

Back to the subject of the OP. NO-one has yet contradicted my identification of only three possible sets of alerts for Cadaver odor.

Do we agree that three is the maximum?

I disagree

Consider this scenario :

A child  climbs to the back of the sofa to look out the window  (  for mum and Dad ) ... she falls heavily on the tiled floor and is fatally injured.  She bleeds, and dies,  in that spot

In that case,  both dogs would alert,  would they not ?

The suggestion that cadaver scent can only exist where the cadaver dog,  alone,  alerts is flawed ...  where both bleeding and death has occured, then both cadaver and blood dog would alert

Your assertion that there were only three possible alerts for cadaver odour is, therefore,  incorrect

NO. See my post on apples and oranges.

An alert by eddie without an absence from keela does not increase our orinal knowledge.

THere are only three sets of results which indicate that cadaver odor is present.

That's not what you said

You said there were only  three possible alerts to cadaver odour

You were wrong

Cadaver odour may have been present in the locations alerted to by both  dogs  ( together with blood )

[Redblossom]

Yup

[debunker]

Back to the subject of the OP. NO-one has yet contradicted my identification of only three possible sets of alerts for Cadaver odor.

Do we agree that three is the maximum?

I disagree

Consider this scenario :

A child  climbs to the back of the sofa to look out the window  (  for mum and Dad ) ... she falls heavily on the tiled floor and is fatally injured.  She bleeds, and dies,  in that spot

In that case,  both dogs would alert,  would they not ?

The suggestion that cadaver scent can only exist where the cadaver dog,  alone,  alerts is flawed ...  where both bleeding and death has occured, then both cadaver and blood dog would alert

Your assertion that there were only three possible alerts for cadaver odour is, therefore,  incorrect

NO. See my post on apples and oranges.

An alert by eddie without an absence from keela does not increase our orinal knowledge.

THere are only three sets of results which indicate that cadaver odor is present.

That's not what you said

You said there were only  three possible alerts to cadaver odour

You were wrong

Cadaver odour may have been present in the locations alerted to by both  dogs  ( together with blood )

But that is not an alert to cadaver. As blood is common and cadaver rare it has indicative value. See my post on apples and oranges.

[Redblossom]

Long and short of it is no one knows if Eddie was alerting to cadaver scent from a dead body or blood from a living person in any alert and this exercise regarding maximum possible alerts  as three to cadaver scent is futile imo