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Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #165 on: November 23, 2014, 06:44:45 PM »
Was DP the translatorman people saw talking with police that night?
No.
Here's a big clue why not.
Because DP was one of the people who saw translatorman talking with police that night.
Which sort of rules out he was translatorman.

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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #166 on: November 23, 2014, 06:54:21 PM »
Who can tell what people will do in times of stress.
  Does DP mention in his statement that he was so stressed out he had to bum a fag off someone and stand and smoke it whilst everyone else ran about looking for Madeleine?

Offline misty

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #167 on: November 23, 2014, 07:07:06 PM »
It would have been better for Murat if he had been Translatorman. He wouldn't have needed to go to all that bother contacting Special Branch agents regarding his phone pings.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #168 on: November 23, 2014, 07:09:15 PM »
Witness J certainly saw a man wearing some sort of striped top at about 10.30am.
(Location stated is a bit ambiguous but IMO it was exactly outside entrance of 5 carpark).
She thought retrospectively (didn't even know what RM looked like at the time) it was RM.
But there is a photo at about 10.30am of RM outside tapas reception wearing guess what
blue jeans and tshirt exactly like he said.

Even my landlady Mrs H solved this easily:
The man J saw at about 10.30am in a striped top was not RM, it was a different man.


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Offline misty

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #169 on: November 23, 2014, 07:13:48 PM »
Witness J certainly saw a man wearing some sort of striped top at about 10.30am.
(Location stated is a bit ambiguous but IMO it was exactly outside entrance of 5 carpark).
She thought retrospectively (didn't even know what RM looked like at the time) it was RM.
But there is a photo at about 10.30am of RM outside tapas reception wearing guess what
blue jeans and tshirt exactly like he said.

Even my landlady Mrs H solved this easily:
The man J saw at about 10.30am in a striped top was not RM, it was a different man.

But what about Smokingman she saw the night before - who was that & what was he dressed in?

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #170 on: November 23, 2014, 07:18:48 PM »
  Does DP mention in his statement that he was so stressed out he had to bum a fag off someone and stand and smoke it whilst everyone else ran about looking for Madeleine?
No, but he does describe seeing translatorman that night talking to police, and the point to note is he is not sure it was RM, and this is why you don't see him joining the other 3 testifying in July2007, because he is not sure it was RM.

Also if you read ROB statement he says it is possible that the identification of translatorman that night as RM may have been subconscious memory transfer of speaking to RM next morning. Phone forensics (examining the order in which the number of RM and the anglican priest number were added to the mobile's contact list) proved that it was indeed memory transfer.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #171 on: November 23, 2014, 07:31:42 PM »
But what about Smokingman she saw the night before - who was that & what was he dressed in?
IMO she saw man A on night of 3rd, then saw man A again morning 4th, and then later on 4th spoke with man B (RM) on her friend's balcony.
If you have read the statements of everyone who saw man A on night of 3rd translating and talking with GNR, and see no tentative clothing description let me know I will try to dig it out.
Man A and man B are both just innocent peeps who happened to be bilingual and genuinely offered their help.
It is a miscarraige of justice that peeps still entertain the idea that RM was there night of 3rd when the evidence he was not is so clear.
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Offline misty

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #172 on: November 23, 2014, 07:49:10 PM »
IMO she saw man A on night of 3rd, then saw man A again morning 4th, and then later on 4th spoke with man B (RM) on her friend's balcony.
If you have read the statements of everyone who saw man A on night of 3rd translating and talking with GNR, and see no tentative clothing description let me know I will try to dig it out.
Man A and man B are both just innocent peeps who happened to be bilingual and genuinely offered their help.
It is a miscarraige of justice that peeps still entertain the idea that RM was there night of 3rd when the evidence he was not is so clear.

I believe RM did not participate in the searches on the night of the 3rd or carry out any translations. I am not convinced he was not Smokingman.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #173 on: November 23, 2014, 07:51:22 PM »
I believe RM did not participate in the searches on the night of the 3rd or carry out any translations. I am not convinced he was not Smokingman.
Re morning 4th - even if I posted photos of RM at 10.30am in blue tshirt, and simultaneously of the different man at 10.30am in a striped top as seen by witness, peeps would still not believe me.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #174 on: November 23, 2014, 08:52:05 PM »
Witness Statement

Silvia María Correio Ramos Batista
Date: 2007 – 05 – 15
... she thinks it should be possible to confirm whether Murat was there on the date that Madeleine disappeared as well as other details, with Paul and June from the Duke of Holland bar and Mr Byron from the property administration company ...
Have you read those three statements of PW and JW and BW? They are all by people who (unlike SB) actually knew what RM looked like, and they were there when SB saw this man. Their statements are conclusive - it certainly was not RM.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #175 on: November 23, 2014, 09:21:07 PM »
This photo which I timed at about 10.30am on morning of the 4th proves that RM was wearing blue jeans and tshirt.
It makes nonsense of the allegation that he was wearing a striped shirt at 10.30am, then changed his clothes, then denied it. The man witness J saw at about 10.30am in striped shirt was a different man standing at a different place.
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Offline bros

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #176 on: November 23, 2014, 10:43:57 PM »
This photo which I timed at about 10.30am on morning of the 4th proves that RM was wearing blue jeans and tshirt.
It makes nonsense of the allegation that he was wearing a striped shirt at 10.30am, then changed his clothes, then denied it. The man witness J saw at about 10.30am in striped shirt was a different man standing at a different place.

Pegasus 10:30 is not correct take a look at the screen clock left corner it is 14:01pm

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #177 on: November 23, 2014, 10:49:39 PM »
Pegasus 10:30 is not correct take a look at the screen clock left corner it is 14:01pm

Goodness me.  Well spotted.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #178 on: November 23, 2014, 10:51:13 PM »
Pegasus 10:30 is not correct take a look at the screen clock left corner it is 14:01pm

Shame it is a screen shot of a TV program...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #179 on: November 23, 2014, 11:45:35 PM »
Pegasus 10:30 is not correct take a look at the screen clock left corner it is 14:01pm
It was broadcast at 14.00 on the 4th.
But the footage was actually filmed at about 10.30am on the 4th.
Without a shadow of a doubt. 8(0(*
Timing confirmed further by phone ping times related exactly to other bits of the same footage.
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