Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.

[Alfred R Jones]

PDL Police did a good job. I wonder wat the forum here will look like when the case is closed.

Much the same as it looks now - a dozen or so saddos ripping lumps out of each other about the fate of a child none of them ever knew. 

[bros]

It can always be done better of course . But if you have minimal knowledge of how law works you would not be laughing maybe crying.    The majority evidence were collected by Judicial Police not regular one, thats why they can solve this case  even working from Tokyo.   .

[Alfred R Jones]

It can always be done better of course . But if you have minimal knowledge of how law works you would not be laughing maybe crying.    The majority evidence were collected by Judicial Police not regular one, thats why they can solve this case  even working from Tokyo.   .

&%+((£ clear as mud, sorry.  Too many people talk in riddles on this forum for my liking.

[ferryman]

Much the same as it looks now - a dozen or so saddos ripping lumps out of each other about the fate of a child none of them ever knew. 

Some of them did.

Dias was sound.

Joao Carlos wrote a good final PJ report ...

Sorry, that was intended to be a response to Bros:

PDL Police did a good job. I wonder wat the forum here will look like when the case is closed.

[bros]

Inspector Pedro Varanda relating to an informal conversation with Robert Murat:


This Police officer was astonished by the knowledge Murat had of McCains everyday routine.

Finally, and in the sense of reiterating the suspicious attitude shown by Robert Murat, I venture still to state that, beyond having manifested an enormous knowledge about the dynamics inherent in the functioning of the "Ocean Club Garden" (in which the events under investigation had taken place) and of the routines followed by the McCann family and their companions during their respective stays in in Praia da Luz,[/b] he has tried persistently to influence the conduct of the present investigation, suggesting various analyses the agreement with which [i.e. had they agreed to follow those suggested lines of inquiry] could be intended to impute the consummation of the present illegal act [the missing child] to foreign third parties [i.e. to put the blame on, or to attribute the blame to, outside foreigners].

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm

[misty]

It can always be done better of course . But if you have minimal knowledge of how law works you would not be laughing maybe crying.    The majority evidence were collected by Judicial Police not regular one, thats why they can solve this case  even working from Tokyo.   .

Are you suggesting a Japanese angle of manga & anime - I seem to recall a report of some cartoon-like porn being found on a computer?

[Carana]

Inspector Pedro Varanda relating to an informal conversation with Robert Murat:


This Police officer was astonished by the knowledge Murat had of McCains everyday routine.

Finally, and in the sense of reiterating the suspicious attitude shown by Robert Murat, I venture still to state that, beyond having manifested an enormous knowledge about the dynamics inherent in the functioning of the "Ocean Club Garden" (in which the events under investigation had taken place) and of the routines followed by the McCann family and their companions during their respective stays in in Praia da Luz,[/b] he has tried persistently to influence the conduct of the present investigation, suggesting various analyses the agreement with which [i.e. had they agreed to follow those suggested lines of inquiry] could be intended to impute the consummation of the present illegal act [the missing child] to foreign third parties [i.e. to put the blame on, or to attribute the blame to, outside foreigners].

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm

Well he would have obviously have learned something of the group's routine as he'd interpreted for various people, including Dianne Webster.

There's nothing in the files to suggest that he knew anything about them prior to Madeleine's disappearance.

Aside from the McCanns, he was the one person that the PJ did investigate thoroughly.

[bros]

Are you suggesting a Japanese angle of manga & anime - I seem to recall a report of some cartoon-like porn being found on a computer?

No Misty I didnt have that information, good that you brought it . I was simply referring that his statements were taken by Judiciary Police  which is same as speaking to Investigative Judge, if you change the statements after couple of month they can book you to the local county jail. Although many contradictions in his statements they decided not to. Maybe they have something else in mind. The other thing is that Murat is still liable for those statements this wont be a case if was interview with regular police. Now if he is cornered during Judaical police and SY interview he have to be extremely careful what he saying.

Well he would have obviously have learned something of the group's routine as he'd interpreted for various people, including Dianne Webster.

There's nothing in the files to suggest that he knew anything about them prior to Madeleine's disappearance.

Aside from the McCanns, he was the one person that the PJ did investigate thoroughly.

The  witness in this statement is Detective who probably knows very well what is he talking about. Plus he was involved since the beginning and is aware of the things you wrote. Lets not water down wat he is talking here he is not only talking here...

[Carana]

To be fair, any grown man who has to rely on his mother for an alibi is going to raise the odd eyebrow. It's not exactly rock solid, is it?

Still, we have to remember that, as with the McCanns, there wasn't any evidence to prosecute Murat, despite him being, apparently, under significant scrutiny.

Chris Jefferies' alibi was hardly rock-solid, either.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/29/christopher-jefferies-tv-joanna-yeates-murder

[Carana]

No Misty I didnt have that information, good that you brought it . I was simply referring that his statements were taken by Judiciary Police  which is same as speaking to Investigative Judge, if you change the statements after couple of month they can book you to the local county jail. Although many contradictions in his statements they decided not to. Maybe they have something else in mind. The other thing is that Murat is still liable for those statements this wont be a case if was interview with regular police. Now if he is cornered during Judaical police and SY interview he have to be extremely careful what he saying.


The  witness in this statement is Detective who probably knows very well what is he talking about. Plus he was involved since the beginning and is aware of the things you wrote. Lets not water down wat he is talking here he is not only talking here...

Sorry, I don't follow.

Murat was thoroughly investigated at the time (possibly the only person, aside from the McCanns, to have been subject to such intensive scrutiny). There is currently nothing to substantiate that Murat is in any way connected to Madeleine's disappearance, aside from having volunteered to help.

[pegasus]

... Murat was thoroughly investigated at the time (possibly the only person, aside from the McCanns, to have been subject to such intensive scrutiny). There is currently nothing to substantiate that Murat is in any way connected to Madeleine's disappearance, aside from having volunteered to help.

Agreed. Good post.

[misty]

Sorry, I don't follow.

Murat was thoroughly investigated at the time (possibly the only person, aside from the McCanns, to have been subject to such intensive scrutiny). There is currently nothing to substantiate that Murat is in any way connected to Madeleine's disappearance, aside from having volunteered to help.

Why do you suppose SY want to re-interview people who were not there on the night in question and who all had rock-solid alibis? (TIC)

[sadie]

Why do you suppose SY want to re-interview people who were not there on the night in question and who all had rock-solid alibis? (TIC)

Perhaps he has been "fingured" by one of the men already questioned?.  SY dont have to tell us everything.
or
Perhaps he knows the background to one of the people they are suspicious about



I had always wanted to think that Robert was not involved in any way.... so hopefully it is the later.

Anyone with any other ideas?

[lizzibif]

Perhaps he has been "fingured" by one of the men already questioned?.  SY dont have to tell us everything.
or
Perhaps he knows the background to one of the people they are suspicious about



I had always wanted to think that Robert was not involved in any way.... so hopefully it is the later.

Anyone with any other ideas?

Evening Sadie ..do you think Robert Murat could be involved in some way ? or could he know more than hes letting on ...just a thought  &%+((£

[Carana]

Why do you suppose SY want to re-interview people who were not there on the night in question and who all had rock-solid alibis? (TIC)

Routine work that would probably have been covered seven years ago if local resources had had a procedure to follow?