Author Topic: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?  (Read 112462 times)

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #105 on: May 01, 2013, 02:42:04 PM »
I did suggest a possible compromise on another thread that got lost, I think, a semantic distinction between evidence and suspicion.

Can we, perhaps, concede that there is evidence that doesn't lead to suspicion?

There is evidence everywhere and different people interpret it in a million different ways.  What I am looking for is evidence which could bring the McCanns to court to answer for an alleged crime.  My point is that there isnt any.
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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #106 on: May 01, 2013, 02:43:32 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

Offline Angelo222

Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #107 on: May 01, 2013, 02:43:43 PM »
HARD EVIDENCE good fellow not hearsay.

I would just love to see the judges face if you were to walk into court and when asked what evidence of a crime you have you offer means and motive.   @)(++(*
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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registrar

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #108 on: May 01, 2013, 02:44:34 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

Do you sell dictionaries?

Can I get a discount?

debunker

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #109 on: May 01, 2013, 02:45:57 PM »
I did suggest a possible compromise on another thread that got lost, I think, a semantic distinction between evidence and suspicion.

Can we, perhaps, concede that there is evidence that doesn't lead to suspicion?

There is evidence everywhere and different people interpret it in a million different ways.  What I am looking for is evidence which could bring the McCanns to court to answer for an alleged crime.  My point is that there isnt any.

In that case start a thread which asks:

"What is the evidence that could bring the McCanns to court to answer for an alleged crime"

and I will post there that the evidence is mighty thin and unconvincing.

But the answer to the question posed by this thread is as I have stated above.

I am the only poster that has not posted merely their opinion, but also provided cites to what the term means in the real and legal world.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #110 on: May 01, 2013, 02:46:11 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

Do you sell dictionaries?

Can I get a discount?

Wikipedia isnt even a proper dictionary in any event.  Just a collection of thoughts and ideas.

The term EVIDENCE is not in dispute but the way you are using it is.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

debunker

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #111 on: May 01, 2013, 02:46:49 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

Do you sell dictionaries?

Can I get a discount?

Can you read English.

Do you understand why cites are necessary and unsupported opinion means nothing?

Offline Admin

Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »
Lets keep cool lads.   ?>)()<

debunker

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #113 on: May 01, 2013, 02:47:59 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

Do you sell dictionaries?

Can I get a discount?

Wikipedia isnt even a proper dictionary in any event.  Just a collection of thoughts and ideas.

The term EVIDENCE is not in dispute but the way you are using it is.

I was referring to my previous cites up this thread from Collins, Chambers and the Shorter Oxford Dictionaries that all agree with what I am saying.

registrar

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #114 on: May 01, 2013, 02:48:08 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence



Do you sell dictionaries?

Can I get a discount?

Wikipedia isnt even a proper dictionary in any event.  Just a collection of thoughts and ideas.

quite - quoting Wiki is akin to Godwin's law

the poster has basically forfeited his/her argument
« Last Edit: May 01, 2013, 02:49:47 PM by registrar »

Offline Angelo222

Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #115 on: May 01, 2013, 02:50:14 PM »
Will continue this later chaps.   8(0(*
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

debunker

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #116 on: May 01, 2013, 02:50:24 PM »
HARD EVIDENCE good fellow not hearsay.

I would just love to see the judges face if you were to walk into court and when asked what evidence of a crime you have you offer means and motive.   @)(++(*

Hearsay is evidence, generally not admissible in court, but evidence all the same.

If you want that question answered then ask that question.

Start a thread saying "What evidence has been produced against the McCanns which is admissible in court" and I will join to say that means and opportunity are but hearsay generally is not.

debunker

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #117 on: May 01, 2013, 02:52:07 PM »
Legal Dictionary definition:


Any matter of fact that a party to a lawsuit offers to prove or disprove an issue in the case.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/evidence



Do you sell dictionaries?

Can I get a discount?

Wikipedia isnt even a proper dictionary in any event.  Just a collection of thoughts and ideas.

quite - quoting Wiki is akin to Godwin's law

the poster has basically forfeited his/her argument

Not true at all. I have also quoted formal sources but people do not seem to understand the complex ideas there, so I apologised and resorted to Wikipedia. I will hammer in a few more nails proving my contention and then I will wait until someone produces anything other than opionion to try to prove their point.

registrar

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #118 on: May 01, 2013, 02:52:25 PM »
HARD EVIDENCE good fellow not hearsay.

I would just love to see the judges face if you were to walk into court and when asked what evidence of a crime you have you offer means and motive.   @)(++(*

Hearsay is evidence, generally not admissible in court, but evidence all the same.

If you want that question answered then ask that question.

Start a thread saying "What evidence has been produced against the McCanns which is admissible in court" and I will join to say that means and opportunity are but hearsay generally is not.

whatever

next time you post anything of substance - not relying on Wiki - let me know

ferryman

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Re: Was there ever any evidence of criminality against the McCanns?
« Reply #119 on: May 01, 2013, 02:54:35 PM »
I did suggest a possible compromise on another thread that got lost, I think, a semantic distinction between evidence and suspicion.

Can we, perhaps, concede that there is evidence that doesn't lead to suspicion?

There is evidence everywhere and different people interpret it in a million different ways.  What I am looking for is evidence which could bring the McCanns to court to answer for an alleged crime.  My point is that there isnt any.

Agreed.

Even in Scotland, where uncorroborated dog alerts are permitted, I don't believe the alerts in the Madeleine investigation would have been permitted.