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Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« on: May 04, 2013, 01:56:21 PM »
Just who is Tony Bennett and what are his motives in becoming embroiled in high profile cases ? Fame / infamy, monetary gain, academic acclaim ?

What are your thoughts on the man and his motives ?

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 02:00:09 PM »
Just who is Tony Bennett and what are his motives in becoming embroiled in high profile cases ? Fame / infamy, monetary gain, academic acclaim ?

What are your thoughts on the man and his motives ?
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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 02:04:52 PM »
Never heard of him.

You've never heard of him Martha ?

This from an earlier post of your's-

Not really.  They have attempted to counteract myths and lies spread by the most high-profile individuals such as Tony Bennett and Goncalo Amaral, and by certain newspapers - however the vast majority of those anonymous internet beings who daily trash Kate & Gerry's reputations and spend all their free time trying to convince the world that Madeleine is dead do so without any restrictions placed on them by the McCanns whatsoever.

Why lie ?

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 02:05:15 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 02:13:52 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

I agree to an extent debunker but surely he has every right to meddle once a case comes into the public domain as long as he remains within the boundaries of legal argument ?
His version of the boundaries of legal argument is obviously skewed given his recent court appearances !
Misguided fool ?

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 02:14:30 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

Insignificant little weed. Not worth wasting time on.  I can't wait for him to mess up his court ruling, to be honest.
And he will, cos he can't keep his neb out.

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 02:15:48 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

I agree to an extent debunker but surely he has every right to meddle once a case comes into the public domain as long as he remains within the boundaries of legal argument ?
His version of the boundaries of legal argument is obviously skewed given his recent court appearances !
Misguided fool ?

He has sailed very close to the wind of defamation and harassment laws in other cases. He is also a convicted criminal for removing road signs as a protest.

Serial Meddler!

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 02:19:41 PM »
Never heard of him.

You've never heard of him Martha ?

This from an earlier post of your's-

Not really.  They have attempted to counteract myths and lies spread by the most high-profile individuals such as Tony Bennett and Goncalo Amaral, and by certain newspapers - however the vast majority of those anonymous internet beings who daily trash Kate & Gerry's reputations and spend all their free time trying to convince the world that Madeleine is dead do so without any restrictions placed on them by the McCanns whatsoever.

Why lie ?

Oh THAT Tony Bennett.  8)--))
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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2013, 02:20:56 PM »
His acolytes are up in arms about what has happened.

Now what is that useful German word?



















Oh, yes, Schadenfreude!

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2013, 02:33:57 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

I agree to an extent debunker but surely he has every right to meddle once a case comes into the public domain as long as he remains within the boundaries of legal argument ?
His version of the boundaries of legal argument is obviously skewed given his recent court appearances !
Misguided fool ?


He has sailed very close to the wind of defamation and harassment laws in other cases. He is also a convicted criminal for removing road signs as a protest.

Serial Meddler!

Debunker, with respect, there have been many "convicted criminals" over the years who have obtained that status because of their personal beliefs (Greenham Common activists, Aung San Suu Kyi, Wang Yonghang to name but a few) the governing bodies of their respective countries would surely have labelled them 'meddlers' ! That doesn't necessarily carry through that they were !
 

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2013, 02:36:08 PM »
Never heard of him.

You've never heard of him Martha ?

This from an earlier post of your's-

Not really.  They have attempted to counteract myths and lies spread by the most high-profile individuals such as Tony Bennett and Goncalo Amaral, and by certain newspapers - however the vast majority of those anonymous internet beings who daily trash Kate & Gerry's reputations and spend all their free time trying to convince the world that Madeleine is dead do so without any restrictions placed on them by the McCanns whatsoever.

Why lie ?

Oh THAT Tony Bennett.  8)--))

Maybe best leave the comedy to the professionals Martha, at least they are funny !

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2013, 02:59:24 PM »
Never heard of him.

You've never heard of him Martha ?

This from an earlier post of your's-

Not really.  They have attempted to counteract myths and lies spread by the most high-profile individuals such as Tony Bennett and Goncalo Amaral, and by certain newspapers - however the vast majority of those anonymous internet beings who daily trash Kate & Gerry's reputations and spend all their free time trying to convince the world that Madeleine is dead do so without any restrictions placed on them by the McCanns whatsoever.

Why lie ?

Oh THAT Tony Bennett.  8)--))

Maybe best leave the comedy to the professionals Martha, at least they are funny !

 8)><( Devil's Avocado doesn't like my jokes.  8)><(

Nor your childish dissection of members names, if that is the level of your debating skils best you turn away from your keyboard now and leave mature reasoned debate to mature reasoned debaters !

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 03:09:42 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

I agree to an extent debunker but surely he has every right to meddle once a case comes into the public domain as long as he remains within the boundaries of legal argument ?
His version of the boundaries of legal argument is obviously skewed given his recent court appearances !
Misguided fool ?


He has sailed very close to the wind of defamation and harassment laws in other cases. He is also a convicted criminal for removing road signs as a protest.

Serial Meddler!

Debunker, with respect, there have been many "convicted criminals" over the years who have obtained that status because of their personal beliefs (Greenham Common activists, Aung San Suu Kyi, Wang Yonghang to name but a few) the governing bodies of their respective countries would surely have labelled them 'meddlers' ! That doesn't necessarily carry through that they were !

The crux of the matter is that those you mention were campaigning against certain aspects of the government or regime, and were thus campaigning against an institution.  And had Bennett confined his activities to campaigns aagainst metrication, or even fringe politics then no problem.

However, in this case (and one or two others) he has been conducting a campaign targetting specific individuals, first of all trying to bring a private prosecution.  When that failed, he has been conducting a rather unpleasant campaign of defamation, accusing them in public of comitting criminal acts, and taking his campaign to their very doorstep.

The fact that his victims were parents grieving over the loss of the daughter is particularly repellent.

If he had real evidence of criminal behaviour by any individual, the appropriate action would be to draw the matter to the attention of the proper authorities, and let them deal with it through the proper channels. 

 

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2013, 03:13:23 PM »
He is a serial meddler in matters that do not in truth concern him!

I agree to an extent debunker but surely he has every right to meddle once a case comes into the public domain as long as he remains within the boundaries of legal argument ?
His version of the boundaries of legal argument is obviously skewed given his recent court appearances !
Misguided fool ?


He has sailed very close to the wind of defamation and harassment laws in other cases. He is also a convicted criminal for removing road signs as a protest.

Serial Meddler!

Debunker, with respect, there have been many "convicted criminals" over the years who have obtained that status because of their personal beliefs (Greenham Common activists, Aung San Suu Kyi, Wang Yonghang to name but a few) the governing bodies of their respective countries would surely have labelled them 'meddlers' ! That doesn't necessarily carry through that they were !

He is a meddler.

NO nobility, just an interfering busy body.

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Re: Tony Bennett ! Misguided fool or fervent campaigner ?
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2013, 03:21:33 PM »


The crux of the matter is that those you mention were campaigning against certain aspects of the government or regime, and were thus campaigning against an institution.  And had Bennett confined his activities to campaigns aagainst metrication, or even fringe politics then no problem.

However, in this case (and one or two others) he has been conducting a campaign targetting specific individuals, first of all trying to bring a private prosecution.  When that failed, he has been conducting a rather unpleasant campaign of defamation, accusing them in public of comitting criminal acts, and taking his campaign to their very doorstep.

The fact that his victims were parents grieving over the loss of the daughter is particularly repellent.

If he had real evidence of criminal behaviour by any individual, the appropriate action would be to draw the matter to the attention of the proper authorities, and let them deal with it through the proper channels.

Hello Jean-Pierre and thank you for your contribution. The examples I referenced were indicative of people's beliefs in a 'system flawed' and as such I mentioned Tony Bennett in the same context only in that he had a belief that metrification was not the way forward for Britain. I would be at odds with many of his beliefs and political leanings but I do acknowledge his right to object / meddle ! That he received a criminal conviction, according to debunker, is unfortunate in my reasoning but such is the law of the land.

In regards to this and other cases my question remains is he a misguided fool or fervent campaigner and what are his motives in your (and other members) view ?
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