The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.

[Mr Gray]

Much like the two new investigations replacing the original one in PdL.

Makes no difference to the dogs putative findings.

both new investigations in pdl are ignoring the dogs alerts

[Serendipity]

You said they have never been wrong and have been unable to suply evidence to support the statement...


As for the dogs being wrong..cuddle cat ..first pass no response...second ...alert...one of them is wrong...take your pick...doesn't matter

Where's your evidence...

Twaddle Dave, Martin knows his dogs have never been wrong and you have been unable to cite one case where they have allegedly been wrong.

Eddie was not wrong re cuddle cat. You obviously missed my post from earlier.

The reason Martin put cuddle cat in the cupboard is explained below.



http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/01/20/30870/indiana-bones-cadaver-dog-severed-limbs-hollywood/

I shall leave you to digest the above  as I am having an early one so will bid you a good night.

[EnolaStraight]

As the situations in both cases stand you cannot prove that Eddie was wrong in Jersey or in PDL.

There is no requirement on me or anyone to 'prove' that a dog alert was 'wrong'. The only requirement is forensic support for any contention that the alert was for more than blood or an error.

[Mr Gray]

Twaddle Dave, Martin knows his dpgs have never been wrong and you have been unable to cite one case where they have allegedly been wrong.

Eddie was not wrong re cuddle cat. You obviously missed my post from earlier.

The reason Martin put cuddle cat in the cupboard is explained below.



http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/01/20/30870/indiana-bones-cadaver-dog-severed-limbs-hollywood/

I shall leave you digest the above  as I am having an early one so will bid you a good night.

 As I said...its not for anyone to have to prove the dogs wrong...the dogs are the ones who are SUPPOSED to be supplying the convincing evidence...the fact that you expect me to have to prove the dogs wrong shows how weak their intelligence is...

and how weak your is

[AnneGuedes]

lol, the dogs would not have been needed in 5a had there been a body for all and sundry to find would they?

Yes, had Smithman desisted of carrying away an inert little girl in the streets of PDL.

[icabodcrane]

There is no requirement on me or anyone to 'prove' that a dog alert was 'wrong'. The only requirement is forensic support for any contention that the alert was for more than blood or an error.

This is not a court of law,   it is an internet forum and we are discussing  the issue of the cadaver dog's alerts in relation to Madeleine McCann 

If you take up a position on the subject  then you must support it  ...  you cannot take the stance that you do not  'need'  to do so 

( Well you  can,  I suppose  ...  but it makes for p*ss poor debate   ) 

[pegasus]

On 02 Aug why was Eddie not deployed in the garden?

[Redblossom]

On 02 Aug why was Eddie not deployed in the garden?

CANINE SEARCH OF MR McCANN'S VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY. 

The villa interior, garden, and all property within were searched by the EVRD. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[AnneGuedes]

On 02 Aug why was Eddie not deployed in the garden?

You mean in the garden of the villa ? Perhaps there was no sign of soil having been moved.
Sorry Redbloddom, you know more than I do. 

[Redblossom]

You mean in the garden of the villa ? Perhaps there was no sign of soil having been moved.
Sorry Redbloddom, you know more than I do. 

No, Anne, I didn't know, I just searched for "garden" in the mccannpjfiles.co.uk against mr grimes report

 

[AnneGuedes]

No, Anne, I didn't know, I just searched for "garden" in the mccannpjfiles.co.uk against mr grimes report

 

Actually I meant that, I wish everyone on this forum would be as rigorous as your are. 

[Redblossom]

Actually I meant that, I wish everyone on this forum would be as rigorous as your are. 

Oh ok, thank you


 

[pegasus]

You mean in the garden of the villa ? Perhaps there was no sign of soil having been moved.
Sorry Redbloddom, you know more than I do. 

True, at the date of the 02 Aug search there had been no report of soil moved or anything like that.
But look at what police did to the garden of another villa on 4th and 5th Aug (where also there was no supporting report of soil moved) they spent two days clearing excavating and probing the entire grounds with rods and evrd

[AnneGuedes]

True, at the date of the 02 Aug search there had been no report of soil moved or anything like that.
But look at what police did to the garden of another villa on 4th and 5th Aug (where also there was no supporting report of soil moved) they spent two days clearing excavating and probing the entire grounds with rods and evrd

Though they were told two months before that Smithman wasn't the owner of that villa.

[Benice]

The dogs had never been wrong ever.....where have you got that from

I don't see how anyone can make that claim.   What if a dog was sent -  say for instance -  into a field to search and missed something buried there and didn't alert.   How could his handler possibly know he had missed whatever it was.      Surely he would just assume that with no alert  - nothing was there?  But he would be wrong and whatever it was could possibly remain hidden there forever.

IMO it's not possible to say with 100 per cent certainty that the dogs never made mistakes.