Author Topic: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.  (Read 137111 times)

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AnneGuedes

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #75 on: December 09, 2013, 07:43:44 PM »
The dogs alerts do not always alert to a dead person..ask grime
About a dog alerting so many times in the same flat, Mrs McCann ("Madeleine") would have an opinion, as WS reminded the other day :
As a lawyer once said to me, apropos another matter, ‘One coincidence, two coincidences – maybe they’re still coincidences. Any more than that and it stops being coincidence.

ferryman

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #76 on: December 09, 2013, 07:47:16 PM »
I look forward to reading your example when you find it

Think of how common it is, these days, for people to die at home.  My own father did and services allow people to do that -- certainly in Britain, no doubt, elsewhere in the world.

If there were to be a murder enquiry at my late father's house, it's conceivable a cadaver dog would react.

The dog might be reacting to the death-scent of my father, a fat lot of good to the progress of any murder enquiry at the house.

Lyall

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #77 on: December 09, 2013, 07:47:25 PM »
I look forward to reading your example when you find it

ferryman's campaign is tireless, but disorganised 8)--))

ferryman

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #78 on: December 09, 2013, 07:51:57 PM »
ferryman's campaign is tireless, but disorganised 8)--))

Campaign?

Redblossom

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #79 on: December 09, 2013, 07:56:28 PM »
Think of how common it is, these days, for people to die at home.  My own father did and services allow people to do that -- certainly in Britain, no doubt, elsewhere in the world.

If there were to be a murder enquiry at my late father's house, it's conceivable a cadaver dog would react.

The dog might be reacting to the death-scent of my father, a fat lot of good to the progress of any murder enquiry at the house.

I fail to see your argument, unless  you are suggesting that at all the places cadaver dogs have been used in relation to a missing person case, their alerts could be explained by someone dying at that house before.....or the existence of blood,.....but not the actual possibility of the missing person having died there, which is as likely if not  MORE...let the apologies continue

AnneGuedes

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #80 on: December 09, 2013, 07:56:48 PM »
Think of how common it is, these days, for people to die at home.  My own father did and services allow people to do that -- certainly in Britain, no doubt, elsewhere in the world.

If there were to be a murder enquiry at my late father's house, it's conceivable a cadaver dog would react.

The dog might be reacting to the death-scent of my father, a fat lot of good to the progress of any murder enquiry at the house.
Eddie was sent to the flat only because there were no visible remains though someone who wasn't autonomous had been last seen there.

Lyall

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #81 on: December 09, 2013, 07:56:59 PM »

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #82 on: December 09, 2013, 07:58:15 PM »
Think of how common it is, these days, for people to die at home.  My own father did and services allow people to do that -- certainly in Britain, no doubt, elsewhere in the world.

If there were to be a murder enquiry at my late father's house, it's conceivable a cadaver dog would react.

The dog might be reacting to the death-scent of my father, a fat lot of good to the progress of any murder enquiry at the house.

...and how many people went missing from his house?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

ferryman

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #83 on: December 09, 2013, 07:58:37 PM »
I fail to see your argument, unless  you are suggesting that at all the places cadaver dogs have been used in relation to a missing person case, their alerts could be explained by someone dying at that house before.....or the existence of blood,.....but not the actual possibility of the missing person having died there, which is as likely if not  MORE...let the apologies continue

You wanted examples of where a cadaver-dog alert in a criminal enquiry does not, in fact, indicate the commission of any crime

There are (potentially) thousands.

stephen25000

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #84 on: December 09, 2013, 08:00:59 PM »
You wanted examples of where a cadaver-dog alert in a criminal enquiry does not, in fact, indicate the commission of any crime

There are (potentially) thousands.

The bottom line remains as always.

The dogs made indications.

There is no forensic backup.

It does not mean something didn't happen to Madeleine in the apartment.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #85 on: December 09, 2013, 08:01:06 PM »
What I don't like, Ferryman, is your attacking Mr Grime as if you were scared to attack a professor or an institution. If you said you had a personal conflict with Mr Grime, that would be more acceptable.

ferryman

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #86 on: December 09, 2013, 08:02:44 PM »
What I don't like, Ferryman, is your attacking Mr Grime as if you were scared to attack a professor or an institution. If you said you had a personal conflict with Mr Grime, that would be more acceptable.

O dear.

Why did Grime say the toy had been forwarded for forensic analysis when it never was?

Any idea?

stephen25000

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #87 on: December 09, 2013, 08:04:18 PM »
O dear.

Why did Grime say the toy had been forwarded for forensic analysis when it never was?

Any idea?

You clearly hate Mr. Grime ferryman.

What fuels this ?

Are you in some way tied to the Mccanns ?

AnneGuedes

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #88 on: December 09, 2013, 08:04:38 PM »
 8)-)))
...and how many people went missing from his house?
8)-)))
Abductors should be careful and never abduct from a place where nobody has died.

ferryman

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Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #89 on: December 09, 2013, 08:05:42 PM »
You clearly hate Mr. Grime ferryman.

What fuels this ?

Are you in some way tied to the Mccanns ?

Why did Grime indicate that the toy had been forwarded for forensic analysis when it never was.

Any idea?