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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #360 on: February 17, 2014, 09:13:40 PM »
Horses mouth Dave.  Martin and Eddie didn't just attend homicide cases you know.  Many missing persons cases where Eddie would find the poor soul hanging from a tree etc.


you are wrong to state that the dogs have never been wrong...simple...

Offline Serendipity

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #361 on: February 17, 2014, 09:14:43 PM »
Please provide cites for your assertion about the previous cases- not self assessment by the handler, but cites that can be verified.

Many cases cited here http://eddieandkeela.blogspot.co.uk/

Offline Serendipity

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #362 on: February 17, 2014, 09:16:04 PM »

you are wrong to state that the dogs have never been wrong...simple...

Care to cite cases where they have supposedly been wrong?

Offline pegasus

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #363 on: February 17, 2014, 09:19:08 PM »
what if the only witness hearing the shot was a dog
What if the only expert saying there's something in the attic is a dog.
After human experts six times already provided their "evidence" there's nothing up there.
Addington case was solved by a dog.

Offline EnolaStraight

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #364 on: February 17, 2014, 09:20:13 PM »
Care to cite cases where they have supposedly been wrong?

McCann case- no cadaver
Jersey- no cadaver

Unless of course you count failures such as that as 'successes'.

But that would be so dishonest.

Offline Serendipity

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #365 on: February 17, 2014, 09:23:56 PM »
McCann case- no cadaver
Jersey- no cadaver

Unless of course you count failures such as that as 'successes'.

But that would be so dishonest.

lol, the dogs would not have been needed in 5a had there been a body for all and sundry to find would they?  The dogs have not yet been proven incorrect in the McCann case.  The forensics did not rule Madeleine catagorically in or out.  As an ongoing case, you cannot state that the dogs were wrong.

As for Jersey, I take it you are not aware that bones had been previously found in the location of the item that contained 1.6% collagen but which had been binned by workman prior to laying concrete?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #366 on: February 17, 2014, 09:24:03 PM »
McCann case- no cadaver
Jersey- no cadaver

Unless of course you count failures such as that as 'successes'.

But that would be so dishonest.

Though there were human remains in Jersey.

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By the end of the excavations and investigations at Haut de la Garenne in July 2008,[4] police had sifted over 150 tonnes of earth. 65 human milk teeth were found, coming from between 10 to 65 individuals aged between 6–12 years and generally seeming to have been shed naturally. Discounting a large quantity of animal bones, only three bone fragments (the largest 25 mm = 1 inch long) were identified as possibly human; two of them have been dated to a range from 1470 to 1650 and the other 1650 to 1950.[9]
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #367 on: February 17, 2014, 09:25:08 PM »
Many cases cited here http://eddieandkeela.blogspot.co.uk/
Ive never doubted the dogs ability to recover victims...thats why they are called EVRD dogs

Wheers your evidnce to support your statement that the dogs have never been wrong...you seem to be making things up

Offline Serendipity

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #368 on: February 17, 2014, 09:25:54 PM »
McCann case- no cadaver
Jersey- no cadaver

Unless of course you count failures such as that as 'successes'.

But that would be so dishonest.

And that you are not aware that there is a new enquiry due to start in relation to HDLG?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #369 on: February 17, 2014, 09:27:29 PM »
Care to cite cases where they have supposedly been wrong?

you made a statement which you cannot support ....now you are trying to worm your way out of it

Offline EnolaStraight

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #370 on: February 17, 2014, 09:28:10 PM »
Though there were human remains in Jersey.

So far as I know there were human remains including teeth in some of the places he alerted, but not in others. The latter should be seen as false alerts in any rational counting.

Offline EnolaStraight

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #371 on: February 17, 2014, 09:29:28 PM »
And that you are not aware that there is a new enquiry due to start in relation to HDLG?

Much like the two new investigations replacing the original one in PdL.

Makes no difference to the dogs putative findings.

Offline Serendipity

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #372 on: February 17, 2014, 09:29:33 PM »
Ive never doubted the dogs ability to recover victims...thats why they are called EVRD dogs

Wheers your evidnce to support your statement that the dogs have never been wrong...you seem to be making things up

They are not just there to recover victims, they are there to detect if there has ever been a body or body part in a location.

Not in the habit of making things up thanks.  Now please cite cases where the dogs have supposedly been incorrect like I asked you to do

Offline Serendipity

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #373 on: February 17, 2014, 09:32:09 PM »
Much like the two new investigations replacing the original one in PdL.

Makes no difference to the dogs putative findings.

As the situations in both cases stand you cannot prove that Eddie was wrong in Jersey or in PDL.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.
« Reply #374 on: February 17, 2014, 09:35:12 PM »
As the situations in both cases stand you cannot prove that Eddie was wrong in Jersey or in PDL.

 For your information...when it comes to providing evidence..its not up to the court to prove the dogs are wrong...its the other way round...no wonder you have everything wrong