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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #150 on: May 12, 2013, 10:07:15 PM »

Or that the Mcanns' response to being accused of "sedating" their children was a response to the accusation (raised for the first time)  making a mockery of Almeida's claim that they "asked too late" for the twins to be tested?
"The fact that, despite all that confusion and all that noise, the twins continued to sleep, as mentioned by GNR Officer José Maria Baptista Roque, a member of the patrol that was first to arrive at the apartment "the children never woke up, remaining in a ventral decubitus position, not moving during the search and afterwards" [28], remains unexplained."
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But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.

What he actually said about calpol night is that in recent years a drug has been introduced called calpol night that has a sedative.

Amaral failed to make plain that the McCann children had never been given it, and left open the possibility (to the unwary reader) that the McCanns might have been given it.

It was left to Morais to make all the running of a "case" that the McCanns' children might have been drugged with it.

Certainly by English libel law, Amaral's allusion would be libel.

Don't know about Portuguese ...

Where does he say that in his book, Ferryman? Thats not what I read.
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2013, 10:13:28 PM »

Or that the Mcanns' response to being accused of "sedating" their children was a response to the accusation (raised for the first time)  making a mockery of Almeida's claim that they "asked too late" for the twins to be tested?
"The fact that, despite all that confusion and all that noise, the twins continued to sleep, as mentioned by GNR Officer José Maria Baptista Roque, a member of the patrol that was first to arrive at the apartment "the children never woke up, remaining in a ventral decubitus position, not moving during the search and afterwards" [28], remains unexplained."
PGR's dispatch

But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.

What he actually said about calpol night is that in recent years a drug has been introduced called calpol night that has a sedative.

Amaral failed to make plain that the McCann children had never been given it, and left open the possibility (to the unwary reader) that the McCanns might have been given it.

It was left to Morais to make all the running of a "case" that the McCanns' children might have been drugged with it.

Certainly by English libel law, Amaral's allusion would be libel.

Don't know about Portuguese ...

Where does he say that in his book, Ferryman? Thats not what I read.

Chapter 4, The real victim is the missing child

The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep. That seems to be a common practice in Great Britain; they even talk about a "Calpol generation." In recent years, the possible presence of an antihistamine with sedative effects in Calpol has aroused great controversy. Recently, the same laboratory put Calpol Night on the market, whose ingredients clearly list that it contains an antihistamine.

ETA: In my earlier post, I should, of course have said the McCanns' children, not the McCanns
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2013, 10:22:58 PM »

Or that the Mcanns' response to being accused of "sedating" their children was a response to the accusation (raised for the first time)  making a mockery of Almeida's claim that they "asked too late" for the twins to be tested?
"The fact that, despite all that confusion and all that noise, the twins continued to sleep, as mentioned by GNR Officer José Maria Baptista Roque, a member of the patrol that was first to arrive at the apartment "the children never woke up, remaining in a ventral decubitus position, not moving during the search and afterwards" [28], remains unexplained."
PGR's dispatch

But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.

What he actually said about calpol night is that in recent years a drug has been introduced called calpol night that has a sedative.

Amaral failed to make plain that the McCann children had never been given it, and left open the possibility (to the unwary reader) that the McCanns might have been given it.

It was left to Morais to make all the running of a "case" that the McCanns' children might have been drugged with it.

Certainly by English libel law, Amaral's allusion would be libel.

Don't know about Portuguese ...

Where does he say that in his book, Ferryman? Thats not what I read.

Chapter 4, The real victim is the missing child

The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep. That seems to be a common practice in Great Britain; they even talk about a "Calpol generation." In recent years, the possible presence of an antihistamine with sedative effects in Calpol has aroused great controversy. Recently, the same laboratory put Calpol Night on the market, whose ingredients clearly list that it contains an antihistamine.
 

My apologies, Ferryman.

Did anyone ever see Kate's father make that statement?

Amarals statement saying, "Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep", is a lie.
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #153 on: May 12, 2013, 10:26:42 PM »

Or that the Mcanns' response to being accused of "sedating" their children was a response to the accusation (raised for the first time)  making a mockery of Almeida's claim that they "asked too late" for the twins to be tested?
"The fact that, despite all that confusion and all that noise, the twins continued to sleep, as mentioned by GNR Officer José Maria Baptista Roque, a member of the patrol that was first to arrive at the apartment "the children never woke up, remaining in a ventral decubitus position, not moving during the search and afterwards" [28], remains unexplained."
PGR's dispatch

But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.

What he actually said about calpol night is that in recent years a drug has been introduced called calpol night that has a sedative.

Amaral failed to make plain that the McCann children had never been given it, and left open the possibility (to the unwary reader) that the McCanns might have been given it.

It was left to Morais to make all the running of a "case" that the McCanns' children might have been drugged with it.

Certainly by English libel law, Amaral's allusion would be libel.

Don't know about Portuguese ...

Where does he say that in his book, Ferryman? Thats not what I read.

Chapter 4, The real victim is the missing child

The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep. That seems to be a common practice in Great Britain; they even talk about a "Calpol generation." In recent years, the possible presence of an antihistamine with sedative effects in Calpol has aroused great controversy. Recently, the same laboratory put Calpol Night on the market, whose ingredients clearly list that it contains an antihistamine.
 

My apologies, Ferryman.

Did anyone ever see Kate's father make that statement?

Amarals statement saying, "Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep", is a lie.

Kate's father did make a statement reported in (I think) The Sun, and I can tell you exactly how the confusion arose.

Mr Healey said something like that Kate and Gerry only occasionally gave their children calpol and the reporter added in brackets in a verbatim quote (sic) to help her (Madleine) sleep.

To stress, those were the reporter's words, not Mr Healey's.

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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #154 on: May 12, 2013, 10:27:43 PM »
@ DCI


'The email from the pretendy supporter said "she would assume it was from Kate". When it was not.'

And you know this how ?

Well when emails are passed from member to member on certain forums, They should make sure the persons name and email are removed, first. So thats how I know  8((()*/

Huh, huh DCI. These emails have been seen by no one on any forum so you must be either the webmaster or spreading disinformation for her.
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #155 on: May 12, 2013, 10:33:09 PM »
Dci spreading disinformation as per form thats all

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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #156 on: May 12, 2013, 10:33:36 PM »
So perhaps "Faithlilly" can tell me - where is this evidence of Kate lying?

There is no concrete evidence yet, just speculation based on the webmaster's reaction to Kate's claim being made public. For confirmation of my suspicions we will have to wait to the libel trial.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #157 on: May 12, 2013, 10:34:14 PM »
@ DCI


'The email from the pretendy supporter said "she would assume it was from Kate". When it was not.'

And you know this how ?

Well when emails are passed from member to member on certain forums, They should make sure the persons name and email are removed, first. So thats how I know  8((()*/

Huh, huh DCI. These emails have been seen by no one on any forum so you must be either the webmaster or spreading disinformation for her.

So how did BS get them?

Believe what you like, I know what I've got and its from no webmaster, and I don't do Facebook. END OF!
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #158 on: May 12, 2013, 10:34:57 PM »


But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.
Fernergan always had some soothing capacity. My aunt, a doctor, used to give this to me, because I hated sleeping.
Now trained doctors have some other drugs, like benzodiazepins. They've a short half-life.

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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #159 on: May 12, 2013, 10:36:08 PM »
Dci spreading disinformation as per form thats all

Thats a bit rich  8)><(
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #160 on: May 12, 2013, 10:38:40 PM »
Where did the webmaster deny that Kate said it was a rumour?  In any case - have the McCanns settled on Amaral's terms?  Of course they haven't, so it's absolutely true that the rumours were unfounded.  This is such idiotic, straw-grasping nonsense.

Do you really think the whole correspondence has been revealed ?
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #161 on: May 12, 2013, 10:38:57 PM »


But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.
Fernergan always had some soothing capacity. My aunt, a doctor, used to give this to me, because I hated sleeping.
Now trained doctors have some other drugs, like benzodiazepins. They've a short half-life.

Fine Anne, but Calpol has never been a medication designed to facilitate falling sleep.
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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #162 on: May 12, 2013, 10:40:36 PM »
So perhaps "Faithlilly" can tell me - where is this evidence of Kate lying?

There is no concrete evidence yet, just speculation based on the webmaster's reaction to Kate's claim being made public. For confirmation of my suspicions we will have to wait to the libel trial.

Who cares? These fabled e-mails will have no bearing whatsoever in the forthcoming court hearing.

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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #163 on: May 12, 2013, 10:41:37 PM »
Where did the webmaster deny that Kate said it was a rumour?  In any case - have the McCanns settled on Amaral's terms?  Of course they haven't, so it's absolutely true that the rumours were unfounded.  This is such idiotic, straw-grasping nonsense.

Do you really think the whole correspondence has been revealed ?

Who cares? These fabled e-mails will have no bearing whatsoever in the forthcoming court hearing.

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Re: Defamation and defamatory ...
« Reply #164 on: May 12, 2013, 10:41:50 PM »
So perhaps "Faithlilly" can tell me - where is this evidence of Kate lying?

There is no concrete evidence yet, just speculation based on the webmaster's reaction to Kate's claim being made public. For confirmation of my suspicions we will have to wait to the libel trial.

Who cares? These fabled e-mails will have no bearing whatsoever in the forthcoming court hearing.

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