Defamation and defamatory ...

[Rachel Granada]

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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

hear, hear beat the parents with a large stick and Madeleine on her tenth birthday also

not right

    

[AnneGuedes]

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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

[Eleanor]

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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

Yes, very funny.  Let's all have a good laugh.  Who needs evidence?

[registrar]

FFS. 
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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

I wish not to know of your knowledge of adminstering heroin to a person

Anna Guedes

that should remain between you and your maker

[AnneGuedes]

FFS. 
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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

I wish not to know of your knowledge of adminstering heroin to a person

Anna Guedes

that should remain between you and your maker

No use of experimenting heroin injection ! Injection is enough... btw I remember having one heroin experience, many many years ago, but no injection, sniffing ! Gosh, as soon as the effect went away you wish it comes back ! I threw the thing away (though friends had bought it), alienation, beurk !

[Rachel Granada]

FFS. 
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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

I wish not to know of your knowledge of adminstering heroin to a person

Anna Guedes

that should remain between you and your maker

No use of experimenting heroin injection ! Injection is enough... btw I remember having one heroin experience, many many years ago, but no injection, sniffing ! Gosh, as soon as the effect went away you wish it comes back ! I threw the thing away (though friends had bought it), alienation, beurk !

It's brave of Anne to share this experience.

[registrar]

FFS. 
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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

I wish not to know of your knowledge of adminstering heroin to a person

Anna Guedes

that should remain between you and your maker

No use of experimenting heroin injection ! Injection is enough... btw I remember having one heroin experience, many many years ago, but no injection, sniffing ! Gosh, as soon as the effect went away you wish it comes back ! I threw the thing away (though friends had bought it), alienation, beurk !

no comment

[faithlilly]

So perhaps "Faithlilly" can tell me - where is this evidence of Kate lying?

There is no concrete evidence yet, just speculation based on the webmaster's reaction to Kate's claim being made public. For confirmation of my suspicions we will have to wait to the libel trial.

If the McCanns have settled on Amaral's terms (as allegedly denied by Kate McCann)  please explain why there is a forth-coming libel trial?

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I think the allegation is not that the McCanns 'settled' but that it was they who asked for an out of court settlement

That is what was not denied by Kate McCann, according to the webmaster of an official site, as I understand it

Wrong.  This was the question raised by the pretendy concerned FB'er that was dismissed as unfounded rumour by the OFM webmaster after allegedly consulting with Kate - read it carefully:


I'm also concerned like Mr xxx if the rumours about Kate and Gerry settling their libel claim on Amaral's terms are true there will be no money left for the search if it is needed. Could you please put my mind at rest. Thanks.
Regards

Can you clarify please ?

Has  Kate McCann denied the allegation that it was she and Gerry who asked for an out of court settlement, or not   ?

The question was raised on the official site, and the webmaster said she would speak to Kate about it  ... is that   correct  ?

So what did Kate say in response   ?

There are two different threads to this.

Firstly a member of OFM Facebook page asked if the rumour were true that the McCanns had asked Amaral to settle out of court. The member was told to email the webmaster for an answer. The webmaster answered that email by saying she would ask Kate if the rumours were true and they were only that, rumours. When the emails became public, the webmaster threatened to instigate legal action if the emails, with Kate's answer, weren't pulled from Blacksmith blog.

The statement denying the settlement rumours on the OFM page came several days after the emails and didn't mention Kate.

[Chinagirl]

In the overall scheme of things it matters not one whit who it was who first proposed the idea of a settlement. It is always better to try to settle than take the matter to court, because of the uncertainty of the outcome of a full trial, and to reduce the costs.

No matter how strong you think your case is (and the McCanns appear to have a very strong one), there is no guarantee of winning, and likewise the defendant can never be sure that his defence will hold.  In this case the defendant has a great deal to lose; apart from financial loss, there is his "standing" in his community ....

In this case a settlement was not reached so the matter will proceed to court  - but goodness knows WHEN ...!

[debunker]

But it was Amaral, that said they used Calpol, not GNR, Anne. Calpol does not have sedative properties.

Its in his book.
He slipped up though, because he said they used "Calpol Night". Which wasn't available in 2007.

Fernergan always had some soothing capacity. My aunt, a doctor, used to give this to me, because I hated sleeping.
Now trained doctors have some other drugs, like benzodiazepins. They've a short half-life.

Fenergan is Promethazine which is chemically very close to Chlorpromazine, the old fashioned major tranquilizer used with psychosis. It is used as an anti emetic and as a mild sedative with children and has been used for travel sickness. I certsinly know people, medical and non-medical who have used it with their children for various reasons.

Benzo Diazepines available in tablet form do not have a particulalrly short half life. From memory, DIazepam has a notoriously long half life of some 72 hours and various other have shorter half lives - 12 hours for some used as hypnotics and 6 hours for one common anti anxiety preparation. If the suggestion is that they are therefore difficult to detect because  of this claimed short half life, then that is wrong becasue the manner in which the body breaks down benzodiazepines means that identifiable and non-active metabolites remain detectable for many days and in some cases weeks after ingestion.

[debunker]

Amarals statement saying, "Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep", is a lie.

No, DCI, it's not a lie. It helps ! At least children who really want to sleep. But could Madeleine sleep ? Wasn't she scared to know she was left alone ? isn'it why she was so tired (she hadn't slept properly the night before) ?

Yes, it was/is a lie, except perhaps in one sense.

Children and adults alike sleep better free of pain than in pain. 

So if you give a child in obvious discomfort (perhaps because of teething problems) a dose of calpol, the calpol may help take away the discomfort, which in turn may help the child to settle, and a settled child will likely sleep better than one in pain.

But calpol has no sedative property.

There is also of course, the placebo effect. I have at times weakened and given my kids Calpol or other analgesics when they have complained of being ill or in pain, and seen them be effective within minutes when it takes at least 30 minutes for the medication to have any real effect. This also goes for ordinary patients!

[debunker]

So if you give a child in obvious discomfort (perhaps because of teething problems) a dose of calpol, the calpol may help take away the discomfort, which in turn may help the child to settle, and a settled child will likely sleep better than one in pain.

But calpol has no sedative property.

Oh yes, I agree with this. Madeleine had no teething problem, but an anxiety one because she knew she was left alone. No calpol can resolve that. But benzodiazepins could.

Your mond-reading amazes me. How do you have direct access to a child's state of mind in 2007?

[debunker]

FFS. 
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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

I can think of one very safe and easy way in which to quickly sedate a child using something other than what would be called medication. And at the time it was thought to be being used to rob people in motor homes and such in France and Southern Europe. Nitrous Oxide- laughing gas!

[debunker]

FFS. 
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It's also possible that they injected heroin into her isn't it AnneGuedes? Anything's possible, the question is a) is it likely and b) where's the fkin' evidence to support the ludicrous theories?!

Lol, if you think you can inject heroin without the injected screaming you're having a dream !

I wish not to know of your knowledge of adminstering heroin to a person

Anna Guedes

that should remain between you and your maker

I have frequently adminisitered heroin and other drugs. It can be done painlessly, especially if the person is already half asleep or asleep.

[AnneGuedes]

I have frequently adminisitered heroin and other drugs. It can be done painlessly, especially if the person is already half asleep or asleep.

heroin to toddlers ? Why ? How long did it take to knock them out ?