Eddie's alert in the garden

[pegasus]

He picked something up and put it in his pocket ... what was it?

No he certainly does not put anything in his pocket Brietta.
Watch carefully, and (important) listen too.
Then I predict you'll drop the accusation.
And while you're there, can you hear what that word is which I asked about earlier?

[pegasus]

Not sure what sentence you are referring to. MG refers to a smell, asks if the other person can smell it.

Thankyou Misty, that's what I thought, but needed confirmation. Most interesting, isn't it?

[misty]

He picked something up and put it in his pocket ... what was it?

Having now looked at the scenes in freeze-frame, I can't see anything in his hand. The strap of the torch is dangling around but I don't see him putting anything in his pocket (unless you can give me a precise time to see otherwise).

[pegasus]

Having now looked at the scenes in freeze-frame, I can't see anything in his hand. The strap of the torch is dangling around but I don't see him putting anything in his pocket (unless you can give me a precise time to see otherwise).

He picks something up (probably just a stone), examines it in torchlight, realises its of no interest, and then ... listen.
But of much more interest is what is said about the flowerbed, does anyone else hear what Misty and I hear?

[pegasus]

Again I'm asking for ears. What is the word where is green stars? Misty has answered. Anyone else?
http://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=56m21s
56m25 Loud bark = Eddie alerts in flowerbed
56m43 Handler: "to really sort of make him"
56m48 Handler: "root, it must have been right at the root"
56m51 Handler: "can you ***** it when you come in?"
56m55 Man2: "yeah I think so"
56m00 Man2: "I'm getting .. something"

[pegasus]

I'm convinced this is a crime by a stranger but I am not convinced by the alerts. Why should I draw an inference from an alert when Harrison said no inference can be drawn

Because it is most important for the innocent relatives that this gets solved Davel.

[misty]

Again I'm asking for ears. What is the word where is green stars? Misty has answered. Anyone else?
http://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=56m21s
56m25 Loud bark = Eddie alerts in flowerbed
56m43 Handler: "to really sort of make him"
56m48 Handler: "root, it must have been right at the root"
56m51 Handler: "can you ***** it when you come in?"
56m55 Man2: "yeah I think so"
56m00 Man2: "I'm getting .. something"

You are of the opinion the PJ should have dug up that area?

[pegasus]

You are of the opinion the PJ should have dug up that area?

That garden and balcony video requires more study Misty.
The handler says  "... interest .... but not enough to make him really ..."
But see the dog tunneling his nose way into the undergrowth at one place.
The tiny alert from above (nose through railing) is also puzzling.

[Brietta]

Having now looked at the scenes in freeze-frame, I can't see anything in his hand. The strap of the torch is dangling around but I don't see him putting anything in his pocket (unless you can give me a precise time to see otherwise).

57:10  using flashlight bends forward to pick up something from the ground
57:13  studies something held between thumb and forefinger of left hand by torchlight
57:17  says " ... take a look at this tomorrow in daylight"
57:18  left hand goes down out of sight ... I don't see the object being returned to where it was picked up
57:27  says, "come back in daylight" another says "yeah"

57:34  "tell me, Martin what ... ??? "  Martin replies "No ..."

57:43  "the em ~ we've searched the em outer perimeter and em there's some interest here but it will take some
             further examination to see what's going on
                                     

[Brietta]

That garden and balcony video requires more study Misty.
The handler says  "... interest .... but not enough to make him really ..."
But see the dog tunneling his nose way into the undergrowth at one place.
The tiny alert from above (nose through railing) is also puzzling.

I don't think it requires any more study than we have already given it, Pegasus.  In my opinion if Eddie had alerted Martin Grime would have said so on camera ... and of course he was 'interested', it was his job to be interested in the search for odours and that was what he was doing.

Don't place too much reliance on the continuity of the video.  There are edits; for example one just prior to 57:10.

If the humans could smell something it was neither residual scent or a cadaver in situ ... Eddie would have alerted and so would Martin Grime.  If what I have read about the smell emitted from rotting human remains is true ... once smelt, never forgotten or mistaken for anything else ... and Martin Grime knew what that smelt like by the nature of his job.

[pegasus]

You may be right Brietta but remember that old saying - leave no stone unturned

The humans could not possibly smell the same thing that an infinitely more capable dog could barely smell.

[Mr Gray]

Because it is most important for the innocent relatives that this gets solved Davel.

the alerts add nothing to the investigation

[pathfinder73]

They informed further that in that search the animal specialised in detection of human blood indicated the possible presence thereof on one of the floor tiles in the living room and that the dog specialised in detection of human cadaver odour had detected the presence thereof in the couple's bedroom and in the back garden of the apartment.

Because of this it was also asked of the undersigned that they entered into contact with an English scientific advisor, named Jonathan Smith, who indicated which traces should be collected and the best way to proceed with their collection.

In that contact the undersigned were told that they should [OCR error: missing word taken to be "proceder": to proceed] proceed with the recovery of the floor tiles indicated by the dog specialised in the detection of human blood, with the recovery of hair in the corridor [pathway] that exists in the area of the back garden next to the window of the couple's bedroom, with the recovery of several pieces of the branches of the climbing plant in the garden (for later check of possible blood traces on them) and with the recovery of possible fibres on the garden wall next to the climbing plant.

He advised further that after the recovery of the tiles the animal specialised in detection of human blood should perform another search of the area from where the tiles had been recovered to verify [check for] the existence of possible human blood in the area from where the tiles had been lifted.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_EDDIE-KEELA.htm

[ferryman]

They informed further that in that search the animal specialised in detection of human blood indicated the possible presence thereof on one of the floor tiles in the living room and that the dog specialised in detection of human cadaver odour had detected the presence thereof in the couple's bedroom and in the back garden of the apartment.

Because of this it was also asked of the undersigned that they entered into contact with an English scientific advisor, named Jonathan Smith, who indicated which traces should be collected and the best way to proceed with their collection.

In that contact the undersigned were told that they should [OCR error: missing word taken to be "proceder": to proceed] proceed with the recovery of the floor tiles indicated by the dog specialised in the detection of human blood, with the recovery of hair in the corridor [pathway] that exists in the area of the back garden next to the window of the couple's bedroom, with the recovery of several pieces of the branches of the climbing plant in the garden (for later check of possible blood traces on them) and with the recovery of possible fibres on the garden wall next to the climbing plant.

He advised further that after the recovery of the tiles the animal specialised in detection of human blood should perform another search of the area from where the tiles had been recovered to verify [check for] the existence of possible human blood in the area from where the tiles had been lifted.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_EDDIE-KEELA.htm

But the alerts add nothing to the investigation.

And investigation of the alerts add(ed) nothing to the investigation.

Which, is of course, a tautologous way of saying the same thing ....

[Brietta]

They informed further that in that search the animal specialised in detection of human blood indicated the possible presence thereof on one of the floor tiles in the living room and that the dog specialised in detection of human cadaver odour had detected the presence thereof in the couple's bedroom and in the back garden of the apartment.

Because of this it was also asked of the undersigned that they entered into contact with an English scientific advisor, named Jonathan Smith, who indicated which traces should be collected and the best way to proceed with their collection.

In that contact the undersigned were told that they should [OCR error: missing word taken to be "proceder": to proceed] proceed with the recovery of the floor tiles indicated by the dog specialised in the detection of human blood, with the recovery of hair in the corridor [pathway] that exists in the area of the back garden next to the window of the couple's bedroom, with the recovery of several pieces of the branches of the climbing plant in the garden (for later check of possible blood traces on them) and with the recovery of possible fibres on the garden wall next to the climbing plant.

He advised further that after the recovery of the tiles the animal specialised in detection of human blood should perform another search of the area from where the tiles had been recovered to verify [check for] the existence of possible human blood in the area from where the tiles had been lifted.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_EDDIE-KEELA.htm

The point is that not one teeny weensy smidgeon of the blood from the tiles had anything to do with Madeleine's case ... I admit the photograph in the files with all the markers on the surrounding wall looks as if a chain saw massacre had taken place there ... but nothing at all to do with anyone we know about.

All that episode proved was that Keela alerted to blood.

If Eddie alerted in the garden and outside the bedroom window ... why didn't Martin Grime say so to camera, which is the source of the verbal report?
When and how and by whom was that transcribed to contain information about alerts not mentioned in the verbal report?