Eddie's alert in the garden

[pathfinder73]

The point is that not one teeny weensy smidgeon of the blood from the tiles had anything to do with Madeleine's case ... I admit the photograph in the files with all the markers on the surrounding wall looks as if a chain saw massacre had taken place there ... but nothing at all to do with anyone we know about.

All that episode proved was that Keela alerted to blood.

If Eddie alerted in the garden and outside the bedroom window ... why didn't Martin Grime say so to camera, which is the source of the verbal report?
When and how and by whom was that transcribed to contain information about alerts not mentioned in the verbal report?

You don't know what was discussed after filming stopped. This was late at night in the dark. We know they went back to the garden to collect items.

[Mr Gray]

Using the best dogs in the world nothing was found...that suggests there was nothing to find.

[Alice Purjorick]

Does anyone know* the contractual relationship between all the parties?
PJ
LP
NPIA
SYP
MG
It might be interesting to know.

*as in know for sure with docs to back it up, not just another "well I fink" or "it's common sense innit".

[pathfinder73]

Using the best dogs in the world nothing was found...that suggests there was nothing to find.

"The forensic evidence gathered at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance has been stored at the National Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences in Coimbra in central Portugal."

[Mr Gray]

"The forensic evidence gathered at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance has been stored at the National Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences in Coimbra in central Portugal."

so in the words of alice..."well I fink"...are you saying there is more evidence

[Carana]

I've tried listening again.

I haven't always been able to stop at the precise second.

I've marked "G" for Grime (his voice is quite distinctive). "H" for the other male English voice. "PT" for a male voice with a foreign accent.


56:26 Bark. “Heel” (or “here”) …

56:27-8 “There you go”.

56:36-37 H: “There’s something up there ?”
56:38 G: “ isn’t half…
56:40 -50  G: “it’s interesting… not enough to really … make him… maybe get a good  (inaudible)
… roots , (inaudible)… must have been right (inaudible) his reach (?).”


56: 50 G: Question (turning around) “Now you can (sight / light?) me, can you (sight / light?) me?

56:56 H: Yeah, I think so.

56:58 H: Did you get a flashlight?
PT voice: Yes. Can I.”

57:02 “Getting a.. something. Yes, so this is.”

H? "(Inaudible)... There’s no need to…”

57:12 G (Picks up item from undergrowth - Slight sound could be Grime throwing it back down.)

57: 15 H: “Let’s have a look at this tomorrow, in daylight.”
57:20 G “… torch…”
57:21 H: “Hmm, yeah.”

57:25 H: “Come back in daylight.”
57:30 G “Yeah”

57:32: “(inaudible) too much interest here”
H?: Yeah.


57:34 PT: Tell me Martin, what…?
57:37 G: No.

57:42 G to camera: “The, hmm. We’ve searched the, hmm, the outer perimeter and, hmm, there is some interest here, but it will take some further examination to see what’s going on.”
PT: OK.

[pegasus]

Thanks Brietta and Carana for your transcripts.
IMO it's not completely clear whether he asks "can you sight" or "can you smell"

[parapono]

Does anyone know* the contractual relationship between all the parties?
PJ
LP
NPIA
SYP
MG
It might be interesting to know.

*as in know for sure with docs to back it up, not just another "well I fink" or "it's common sense innit".

It might be good to add the FSS to your list.

[pegasus]

This photo shows the actual height of the climbing plant behind the railing on that night 3rd/4th May.
What is the height of the top of that railing above the balcony floor?
Which light is the outdoors section of the restaurant?

[pathfinder73]

This photo shows the actual height of the climbing plant on that night 3rd/4th May.

Good hiding place under it.

[pegasus]

Good hiding place under it.

Some parts of the garden are visible to pedestrians just outside the street gate, and some parts aren't.
The alert location (corner of flowerbed near base of that climbing plant) is not visible from the streetgate.

[Carana]

Thanks Brietta and Carana for your transcripts.
IMO it's not completely clear whether he asks "can you sight" or "can you smell"

Can't work it out. In one, what I heard sounded more like "sight / light" - which was just before someone turned up with a flashlight / torch.

In another instance, earlier on, what I think I heard sounded more "sm..."

Really hard to tell.

[Carana]

I can understand that they didn't want to attract more attention than necessary, but what light were they actually trying to work from that night before someone eventually found a flashlight / torch?

How long had Eddie been in work mode by that time? Grime looks quite exhausted by then as well.

Something did seem to be of interest to Eddie, but his single barks seem in contrast to other occasions of multiple barks in quick succession.

Was the interest in the balcony a smell coming up from garden level that he couldn't quite pinpoint? If so, he showed interest at ground level, but again only isolated single barks.

Could he have been too tired at that point?

Were he and Keela taken back the next day?

If there had been any sign of digging in that small garden bed, wouldn't it have been noticeable?

If someone had dug up a mature climbing plant to bury something, wouldn't the bush have shown signs of ill health?

Was a crawl space or some kind of drain ever excluded?

If patio windows had been opened on occasion (almost certainly during summer lets), could whatever was in the garden bed have wafted up and accumulated in the flat?

Was a ground soil analysis ever done?

Lots of questions... few answers.

[pathfinder73]

They found more answers by doing further searches on clothes, vehicles etc.

[Carana]

They found more answers by doing further searches on clothes, vehicles etc.

Clothes and vehicles don't appear to have been found in that garden patch, though.