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Offline Mrs. B

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.


The above is from the AG's legal summary. I have put the relevant section in bold. As I understand it, the AG was unable to formulate a cohesive, credible or even possible scenario firmly implicate the McCann in Madeleine's disappearance. Anybody feel they can do a better job?
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 11:51:20 AM by Angelo222 »

AnneGuedes

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I'm not sure anyone is capable to do a "better job", because Magalhaes e Menezes did no job on that respect. He doesn't say "he was unable", he says "if, hypothetically, one...., it would still have to be explained how, etc.".
This is an extremely delicate issue, and I wonder whether you'll get answers, Mrs B.

Offline Mrs. B

Why is it an "extremely delicate" issue? Several posters seem to be of the firm opinion that the McCann ARE indeed responsible for Madeleine's disappearance, or even of her death, surely those who do must have some idea or scenario that explains the HOW, WHERE, WHEN & with the help of WHOM questions?

Offline Benice

Why is it an "extremely delicate" issue? Several posters seem to be of the firm opinion that the McCann ARE indeed responsible for Madeleine's disappearance, or even of her death, surely those who do must have some idea or scenario that explains the HOW, WHERE, WHEN & with the help of WHOM questions?

I've never read a credible theory which proves the McCanns were involved -  because IMO, and without exception, they all reach the stage where they crash and burn, UNLESS you are prepared to remove all common sense, logic and reasoned /intelligent thought from the equation - as well as ignoring innumerable witness statements from independent witnesses. 

The theory of the 'substitute child' being just one example.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mo Stache

I'm not sure anyone is capable to do a "better job", because Magalhaes e Menezes did no job on that respect. He doesn't say "he was unable", he says "if, hypothetically, one...., it would still have to be explained how, etc.".
This is an extremely delicate issue, and I wonder whether you'll get answers, Mrs B.
He says that no one (which I understand as being the police and forensics) has provided the explanation as "to how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and how they freed themselves of the body within the restricted time frame" while being watched 24/7. And because no one has provided answers to the above questions, it is his finding that the McCann's cannot be implicated in the assumption that they killed and disposed of Madeleine's body.
In short - He has ruled out the fact that Madeleine's parents are complicit in murdering and concealing of her body, because there is no evidence to support that assumption. 

Offline Mrs. B

 8((()*/ Thank you, yes, that's exactly why I was interested in finding out if anyone can present a scenario that makes any sense whatsoever & doesn't contradict the factual evidence in the police files.

It's always been the elephant in the room as far as I'm concerned.

Offline Mo Stache

Anne
Mrs B. is inviting those who do believe the McCann's are guilty of murdering Madeleine and concealing her body to provide the answers the Attorney General has asked. To explain -  means, motive and opportunity.

AnneGuedes

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Why is it an "extremely delicate" issue? Several posters seem to be of the firm opinion that the McCann ARE indeed responsible for Madeleine's disappearance, or even of her death, surely those who do must have some idea or scenario that explains the HOW, WHERE, WHEN & with the help of WHOM questions?
Sure ! If, then, if... and imo
Concerning the "help of whom" I can't figure out somebody helping somebody in such a senseless activity unless with a "come on !". Concerning "when", I don't buy the totally implausible freezer scenario. About how, witnesses saw a carrier, I've not doubt about that. There's a clue of where in "Madeleine".

AnneGuedes

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Anne
Mrs B. is inviting those who do believe the McCann's are guilty of murdering Madeleine and concealing her body to provide the answers the Attorney General has asked. To explain -  means, motive and opportunity.
I didn't understand that Mrs B. invited those who believe in murder. If so, then I'll erase my posts, because this is not my opinion.

AnneGuedes

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I'm not sure anyone is capable to do a "better job", because Magalhaes e Menezes did no job on that respect. He doesn't say "he was unable", he says "if, hypothetically, one...., it would still have to be explained how, etc.".
This is an extremely delicate issue, and I wonder whether you'll get answers, Mrs B.
He says that no one (which I understand as being the police and forensics) has provided the explanation as "to how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and how they freed themselves of the body within the restricted time frame" while being watched 24/7. And because no one has provided answers to the above questions, it is his finding that the McCann's cannot be implicated in the assumption that they killed and disposed of Madeleine's body.
In short - He has ruled out the fact that Madeleine's parents are complicit in murdering and concealing of her body, because there is no evidence to support that assumption.
You're interpreting Magalhães e Menezes. Why do you "rewrite" him ? He clearly says that no evidence of any crime was found as no evidence was found the arguidos had committed any crime.

Offline Mrs. B

No Anne, I didn't say that. I mentioned that SOME people, apart from accusing the McCann couple of being involved in the disappearance of their child, have also accused them of MURDERING their child. All scenarios are welcome & so are potential questions & doubts relating to those possible scenarios.

Offline Mo Stache

Anne
Mrs B. is inviting those who do believe the McCann's are guilty of murdering Madeleine and concealing her body to provide the answers the Attorney General has asked. To explain -  means, motive and opportunity.
I didn't understand that Mrs B. invited those who believe in murder. If so, then I'll erase my posts, because this is not my opinion.
Sorry let me rephrase that - Inviting those who believe the McCann's are responsible for Madeleine's death

AnneGuedes

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No Anne, I didn't say that. I mentioned that SOME people, apart from accusing the McCann couple of being involved in the disappearance of their child, have also accused them of MURDERING their child. All scenarios are welcome & so are potential questions & doubts relating to those possible scenarios.
Thank you, Mrs B.

Offline Mrs. B

Anne
Mrs B. is inviting those who do believe the McCann's are guilty of murdering Madeleine and concealing her body to provide the answers the Attorney General has asked. To explain -  means, motive and opportunity.
I didn't understand that Mrs B. invited those who believe in murder. If so, then I'll erase my posts, because this is not my opinion.
Sorry let me rephrase that - Inviting those who believe the McCann's are responsible for Madeleine's death.
8((()*/

AnneGuedes

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Anne
Mrs B. is inviting those who do believe the McCann's are guilty of murdering Madeleine and concealing her body to provide the answers the Attorney General has asked. To explain -  means, motive and opportunity.
I didn't understand that Mrs B. invited those who believe in murder. If so, then I'll erase my posts, because this is not my opinion.
Sorry let me rephrase that - Inviting those who believe the McCann's are responsible for Madeleine's death.
Again I don't agree ! I certainly wouldn't say they're responsible for her death. I'm not in a superior position allowing me to make such a claim.