AG said he couldn't explain how the McCanns could be responsible - Can you?

[DCI]

But not just that. There never was any "leakage" into a tyre well. Apparently, there never was one anyway in the boot of that car (just a small tool space), which wasn't one of the parts sent of for analysis.

I'm not impressed at all by Keela in the boot where the presence of minute drops of blood doesn't seem unlikely. Deducing it was Madeleine's doesn't sound reasonable to me.
The car key might have been contaminated.

I would say the car was comtaminated, before it even got to the garage.

It should not have been taken from outside a cafe. Sly move there!
It should not have been driven by a GNR officer, to the garage.
It should not have had Madeleine's photo all over it.
Levy should have been nowhere near anything.

[Redblossom]

Levy should not have been near anything? Was he there?

[Mrs. B]

But not just that. There never was any "leakage" into a tyre well. Apparently, there never was one anyway in the boot of that car (just a small tool space), which wasn't one of the parts sent of for analysis.

I'm not impressed at all by Keela in the boot where the presence of minute drops of blood doesn't seem unlikely. Deducing it was Madeleine's doesn't sound reasonable to me.
The car key might have been contaminated.

I would say the car was comtaminated, before it even got to the garage.

It should not have been taken from outside a cafe. Sly move there!
It should not have been driven by a GNR officer, to the garage.
It should not have had Madeleine's photo all over it.
Levy should have been nowhere near anything.

Levy as in Morais' ex boyfriend?

[Mo Stache]

Levy should not have been near anything? Was he there?

It was rumoured that journalists Paulo Reis and Levy Duarte had inside information on the case pre shelving. If you followed the Leveson Inquiry it wouldn't have been difficult to determine where that inside information came from.
The dogs search video footage of the apartment and the car was taken by Levy. Why a journalist was allowed to film an official police dog search and not the police or other law enforcement, is a question that needs to be addressed.

[Angelo222]

Where do they vary, Anne?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/J-T-R-Salcedas.htm

At that time, at about 22.20 - 22.30 he noticed that there was only one person sitting at the group's table, the oldest of them and he asked her jokingly whether they had left her alone.

The person in question said that the others had gone to the apartment to look for a girl who had disappeared. Seconds later Madeleine's father appeared, greatly agitated, looking for his daughter everywhere, obviously and immediately heading towards the pool and surrounding areas.

Shortly afterwards Luz Ocean Club was in a state of absolute commotion. Everyone was trying to help in the search for Madeleine which was multiplied in numerous search actions over a large perimeter. The witness immediately perceived the seriousness of the situation. Madeleine's mother was shouting desperately for her daughter. The witness told another chef at the Millenium restaurant so that he would also help in the searches.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JERONIMO-SALCEDAS.htm

On the night Madeleine disappeared, everything appeared normal. I remember that when I took notice of the disappearance, I had been in the restaurant speaking with my two colleagues?Ze and Ricardo who were on break. I returned to the restaurant and noticed that the table of nine was empty with the exception of the older woman. I went over to the table and joked with her: ?They've left you alone?? She responded more of less with these words: ?No, they went to see if the little girl was there.? I responded that I hoped they would find her somewhere in the apartment. At saying this, I saw the man. Who I knew later to be Madeleines father, running to the pool and to the childrens play area in the Tapas zone as if looking for someone. It immediately hit me that after talking to the older woman, that the little girl had not been found. I offered to alert the workers at the Milenium Restaurant and the man agreed. He then left again running to continue searching. I believe that this was between 21H30 and 22H00 but do not remember with certainty.

I went to find Ze and Ricardo to give them the news and to get their help in searching for the missing girl. I saw the head of the Milenium Restaurant in the Tapas and asked him to telephone the restaurant.

I ran out of the Tapas and noticed that some of the childcare works of the Mark Warner had begun to arrive. At the point I left the Tapas I heard a scream from a woman I did not know. I do not know who screamed, but I had never heard a similar cry. I cannot even describe it but thought it had come from the child's mother.

The time of 21H30 - 22H00 in the second statement is clearly an error so just goes to show what cam happen.  It is quite possible a typist put in the wrong time but it is very careless that this wasn't checked.

Jeronimo Salcedas' statements tie in exactly with statements by the creche staff who were out searching the grounds from around 10.15pm.   It was just after that time that Jeronimo heard a scream from the apartment.  No mystery Anne and no doubts whatsoever when this occurred and why.

[Angelo222]

Levy should not have been near anything? Was he there?

It was rumoured that journalists Paulo Reis and Levy Duarte had inside information on the case pre shelving. If you followed the Leveson Inquiry it wouldn't have been difficult to determine where that inside information came from.
The dogs search video footage of the apartment and the car was taken by Levy. Why a journalist was allowed to film an official police dog search and not the police or other law enforcement, is a question that needs to be addressed.

Very sloppy police work imo but this is Portugal we are talking about where anything goes including beating up suspects to obtain a confession and bribing judges to influence judgements.  It is no secret that the GNR and the PJ leaked information when it suited them.  Unfortunately for Amaral though this later came back to destroy his own career.

[debunker]

Thats fine- you're welcome.

Pointing this out was enough to get me banned from one board!

[Luz]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.


The above is from the AG's legal summary. I have put the relevant section in bold. As I understand it, the AG was unable to formulate a cohesive, credible or even possible scenario firmly implicate the McCann in Madeleine's disappearance. Anybody feel they can do a better job?

No responsible investigator would attempt to explain any crime without the full evidence - that's basic.
However, as we all can understand as human beings, we can have a conviction based on a few facts and intuition, even if we don't have all the necessary data to put a full frame together.

[debunker]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.


The above is from the AG's legal summary. I have put the relevant section in bold. As I understand it, the AG was unable to formulate a cohesive, credible or even possible scenario firmly implicate the McCann in Madeleine's disappearance. Anybody feel they can do a better job?

No responsible investigator would attempt to explain any crime without the full evidence - that's basic.
However, as we all can understand as human beings, we can have a conviction based on a few facts and intuition, even if we don't have all the necessary data to put a full frame together.

Such 'convictions' are generally known as libellous fantasies.

[Angelo222]

I posted this a while back but one member doesn't like it and calls it libel.   Note to member...something is only a libel if it is untrue.

"Very sloppy police work imo but this is Portugal we are talking about where anything goes including beating up suspects to obtain a confession and bribing judges to influence decisions.  It is no secret that the GNR and the PJ leaked information when it suited them.  Unfortunately for Amaral though this later came back to destroy his own career"

I have removed the word 'routinely' as I agree that may not be fair.
However, can I ask which part is untrue dear member?

[AnneGuedes]

Generalizations are always abusive, aren't they, dear admin ?

[ferryman]

Levy should not have been near anything? Was he there?

It is an abiding (and deeply disturbing) mystery how on earth Levy got hold of so much he did, including rogatory statements, dog videos and much else ...

[Redblossom]

The dogs search video footage of the apartment and the car was taken by Levy. Why a journalist was allowed to film an official police dog search and not the police or other law enforcement, is a question that needs to be addressed.

Have you got a link for that? It's the first I've ever heard of it.

or any else??

 

[icabodcrane]

I posted this a while back but one member doesn't like it and calls it libel.   Note to member...something is only a libel if it is untrue.

Debunker ?

Are you not going to point out the glaring error in Angelo's statement ?

[debunker]

I posted this a while back but one member doesn't like it and calls it libel.   Note to member...something is only a libel if it is untrue.

Debunker ?

Are you not going to point out the glaring error in Angelo's statement ?

I had not seen that.

The truth can amount to defamation, dependent on how it is phrased.