Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.

[pegasus]

The westside pavement is continuous, so the decision tree is somewhat different.

First, I can't see any reason to believe Madeleine was familiar with the path that forks right towards Baptista's front (west) entrance.

It brings into question as to whether she was familiar with Baptista's eastern entrance on Martin's, e.g. being taken there on her way to or from the Mini Club.  Again, I have seen nothing to suggest this.  In any case, Baptista shut at 8 that night, so even if she tried that, there was no way in.

That suggests a path downhill beyond Baptista to the junction there.  Left is downhill again, right is nearly flat until close to the end.  Once again, I have seen nothing to suggest Madeleine was familiar with the route to the right, so it seems unlikely.

The route to the left was one she almost certainly was familiar with.  Before the short cut to the ÒC 24 hour reception was discovered, the obvious route was down Martins, turn left onto Rua Direita and walk to the OC.

I have not seen confirmation of this in the files, but if that was not the route taken initially, I cannot see anything else making sense.

The Mini Club was where Madeleine was taken by her parents, where Madeleine had fun with other children of her own age, where she was looked after by grown-ups, and where her parents would come to get her and take her home.

I am not having any problems per se with the route so far.

Thankyou ShiningInLuz. You are correct the westside pavement is continuous I apologise. Agreed not the diagonal path to supermarket carpark (because not downhill and not a known route). So continue down Rua Martins and at the end turn left on Rua Teixiera (is downhill and is a known route).

[Miss Taken Identity]

He also completely ignored the open window/shutters story. In fact he states that no-one entered the apartment in his opinion- too high risk. If it was too high risk to enter the apartment that suggests it would have been too high risk to open shutters from outside. His lack of explanation for the open window and shutters suggests to me an incomplete ill thought-out theory.

I would suggest he refrianed for what ever reason.

 I have always held the view that the shutter/window thing was staged to protect the parents reputation. They were faced with huge backlach of hatred, even displayed today by some, for leaving their children alone. They had to create a boogie man- to absolve them from blame or guilt and it worked perfectly as we see.

They created themselves as victims and tried to minimise their daughters suffering.

[Mr Gray]

I would suggest he refrianed for what ever reason.

 I have always held the view that the shutter/window thing was staged to protect the parents reputation. They were faced with huge backlach of hatred, even displayed today by some, for leaving their children alone. They had to create a boogie man- to absolve them from blame or guilt and it worked perfectly as we see.

They created themselves as victims and tried to minimise their daughters suffering.

I haven't seen any huge backlash of hatred...you must have some strange friends...everyone I have spoken to feels sympathetic

[Miss Taken Identity]

I haven't seen any huge backlash of hatred...you must have some strange friends...everyone I have spoken to feels sympathetic

Well you must be someone else posting as Davel. Because all the supporters constanly quote from H aters sites.
and even class non believers mentally ill and other nasty names... What about The family demanding online bullies be prosecuted?.. oh Sorry, I forgot,  kate n Gerry god and goddess of the masses? Loved and adored by everyone. Heehee.

[Mr Gray]

Well you must be someone else posting as Davel. Because all the supporters constanly quote from H aters sites.
and even class non believers mentally ill and other nasty names... What about The family demanding online bullies be prosecuted?.. oh Sorry, I forgot,  kate n Gerry god and goddess of the masses? Loved and adored by everyone. Heehee.

that's a handful of nutters on the net.....not a huge backlash

[stephen25000]

I haven't seen any huge backlash of hatred...you must have some strange friends...everyone I have spoken to feels sympathetic

Most people have utmost sympathy for Madeleine. but when they know what the mccanns did in unnecessarily endangering their children, they want to know why they have not been charged with at least neglect.

[Mr Gray]

Most people have utmost sympathy for Madeleine. but when they know what the mccanns did in unnecessarily endangering their children, they want to know why they have not been charged with at least neglect.

absolute rubbish as usual...unless you have a cite that most people want to know why they have not been charged with neglect...which of course you  don't

[stephen25000]

absolute rubbish as usual...unless you have a cite that most people want to know why they have not been charged with neglect...which of course you  don't

Not rubbish at all.

Yet you claim people have sympathy for the mccanns. 

[Mr Gray]

Not rubbish at all.

Yet you claim people have sympathy for the mccanns. 

yawn...of course they do

[Miss Taken Identity]

absolute rubbish as usual...unless you have a cite that most people want to know why they have not been charged with neglect...which of course you  don't

It would help if you read the post properly. pay particular attention to enbolden words;

 They were faced with huge backlach of hatred, even displayed today by some

In other words, IF they had not screamed at the media about jemmied shutters and  child being snatched while they sat in what is like a garden like same as other British people...and told the truth. There would have been a backlash and even without them accepting responsibility  SOME people have nothing but disgust at their behaviour.

PR job.

[stephen25000]

yawn...of course they do

An ever diminishing small band of people.

[Mr Gray]

An ever diminishing small band of people.

talking rubbish again unless of course you have a cite...which you dont

[stephen25000]

talking rubbish again unless of course you have a cite...which you dont

Not talking rubbish dave.

The comments section on the Mail is a good reflection of opinion.

Now can you cite evidence of people to support your view, and who know what the mccanns did ?

[Mr Gray]

Not talking rubbish dave.

The comments section on the Mail is a good reflection of opinion.

Now can you cite evidence of people to support your view, and who know what the mccanns did ?

you may notice ...if you read back that you talk of "most" people whilst I talk of people...
do you understand the difference..

[stephen25000]

you may notice ...if you read back that you talk of "most" people whilst I talk of people...
do you understand the difference..

Very few people in your case dave.

Have you told your mates what the mccanns did in leaving their children unprotected before Madeleine disappeared ?