Has the reward money for the safe return of Madeleine McCann been dropped?

[amaraltheofficeboy]

are people suggesting that the seedy lowlife people have only suddenly come upon relevant information and didn't have it years ago when the reward was publicised?

It possible I suppose but how likely?

memories change as do attitudes over time.  Allegiances also change within criminal groups so now is the right time to put a reward out there are see what gets hooked.

and who should do it - the Mccanns - I think we all agree that it is not their reward money offered in the first place or the people/organisations that originally offered it - or the fund?

Who should make the announcement - the Mccanns or the Police?

Where should the announcement be made - UK, Portugal or worldwide?

Should there be a time limit?

How much should they offer?

Should it be for information leading to a live Madeleine?

You seem to know about these things so I look forward to your opinion?

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Did the PJ ever publicise the reward when it was originally on offer - or was this something else covered byt the secrecy thing?

[Carana]

Did the PJ ever publicise the reward when it was originally on offer - or was this something else covered byt the secrecy thing?

Good point. I don't recall the PJ mentioning it,  but it may have got picked up by the PT tabloids - I can't recall offhand.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Is it allowed/policy to offer a reward in Portugal - I don't know.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

maybe SY could have saved taxpayers money and just offered £1m reward and sat back and waited?

[Angelo222]

See, there you go again, implying that the McCanns are calculating, heartless, uncaring parents.  Did it occur to you that the McCanns may have taken professional advice on this matter from people who do actually know what they are talking about and who don't see the offering of a reward as the simple solution to the case that you seem to see it as?

That's the problem you see.  The people they are talking to and taking advice from are a useless bunch.  One of them was responsible for an innocent man being imprisoned for years for the murder of Jill Dando yet remains in post.  That clown of a detective and a few others of the same ilk should have been booted out but no he and they are still there advising people like the McCanns and no doubt looking to stitch up the next poor sod with some sort of learning difficulty who is easily influenced.  Amaral must be laughing his socks off at them with their latest suspect list which in the end and £millions later will lead nowhere.

Maybe the McCanns are content to follow the official line and keep their heads down?  A little PR here, an odd interview there once in a while, an occasional fun run and not forgetting Kates patronage of a missing children organisation.  All great stuff but how exactly will any of this go any way to finding their daughter after 6 long years???

So you completely dismiss out of hand any of the potential downsides associated with the business of offering a reward?  You are obviously very knowledgeable about the benefits of offering a reward - perhaps you can give some real-life examples of people found because of the reward offered?

After 6 years wasted what downsides exactly are we talking about?    We already have the downside, Madeleine is as much lost as she was on 3rd May 2007.   The offer of a reward has brought forward  much information over the years, the police use this tool regularly as do the national Press when they get involved.  Do you really believe they wouldn't offer a reward if there was little success of it being of assistance?   The UK charity Crimestoppers use rewards regularly in all sorts of cases which again proves that the offer of a reward is conducive to solving cases.

[Angelo222]

maybe SY could have saved taxpayers money and just offered £1m reward and sat back and waited?

For all the f..king use they have been they might as well done exactly that....

[Angelo222]

are people suggesting that the seedy lowlife people have only suddenly come upon relevant information and didn't have it years ago when the reward was publicised?

It possible I suppose but how likely?

memories change as do attitudes over time.  Allegiances also change within criminal groups so now is the right time to put a reward out there are see what gets hooked.

and who should do it - the Mccanns - I think we all agree that it is not their reward money offered in the first place or the people/organisations that originally offered it - or the fund?

Who should make the announcement - the Mccanns or the Police?

Where should the announcement be made - UK, Portugal or worldwide?

Should there be a time limit?

How much should they offer?

Should it be for information leading to a live Madeleine?

You seem to know about these things so I look forward to your opinion?

It matters little, what does matter is that they get on with it.

[icabodcrane]

See, there you go again, implying that the McCanns are calculating, heartless, uncaring parents.  Did it occur to you that the McCanns may have taken professional advice on this matter from people who do actually know what they are talking about and who don't see the offering of a reward as the simple solution to the case that you seem to see it as?

That's the problem you see.  The people they are talking to and taking advice from are a useless bunch.  One of them was responsible for an innocent man being imprisoned for years for the murder of Jill Dando yet remains in post.  That clown of a detective and a few others of the same ilk should have been booted out but no he and they are still there advising people like the McCanns and no doubt looking to stitch up the next poor sod with some sort of learning difficulty who is easily influenced.  Amaral must be laughing his socks off at them with their latest suspect list which in the end and £millions later will lead nowhere.

Maybe the McCanns are content to follow the official line and keep their heads down?  A little PR here, an odd interview there once in a while, an occasional fun run and not forgetting Kates patronage of a missing children organisation.  All great stuff but how exactly will any of this go any way to finding their daughter after 6 long years???

So you completely dismiss out of hand any of the potential downsides associated with the business of offering a reward?  You are obviously very knowledgeable about the benefits of offering a reward - perhaps you can give some real-life examples of people found because of the reward offered?

After 6 years wasted what downsides exactly are we talking about?    We already have the downside, Madeleine is as much lost as she was on 3rd May 2007.   The offer of a reward has brought forward  much information over the years, the police use this tool regularly as do the national Press when they get involved.  Do you really believe they wouldn't offer a reward if there was little success of it being of assistance?   The UK charity Crimestoppers use rewards regularly in all sorts of cases which again proves that the offer of a reward is conducive to solving cases.

I don't see how anyone can argue with the logic of your arguement

[Angelo222]

That may seem easy from the outside...

The McCanns were there for months. Neither they, nor the PIs could have interviewed anyone who chose not to talk to them.

There was no point in them staying there with the hostile atmosphere once they'd been made arguidos - and there were the twins to consider.

If Gerry had not gone back to work, they'd have had to have lived off the fund. And he no doubt mentally he needed a constructive focus that gave him a breather for part of the day from the emotional trauma.

Once they got hold of the files, there was obviously a lot to check through, detail by detail.

I really don't see what staying on in PT would have achieved.

What did they do for months?  Sat in PDL twiddling their thumbs until Amaral decided they were involved and the moment he was forced to lift the arguido status they flew back to the UK.   You don't give up on your child just because the police are a little hostile to you.  The McCanns are qualified doctors, they could have got a job in Portugal quite easily and used their spare time to effectively look for their missing daughter but no...not to be. I am not in the lease surprised that many people are critical of their decision to return to the UK and effectively abandon their child to her fate.  Just awful imo. 

[Angelo222]

You must address your concerns to the Scotland Yard Review Team - perhaps they can shed some light on it.

I wouldn't waste my time Martha.  It is action on the ground in Portugal and elsewhere that is needed which is something the Met office boys will never be able to do.  Best to leave them to what they do best and leak a few more morsels and snippets to their pals down at Fleet Street.   After all that's what keeps the public happy and the cash rolling in for another few years.

[icabodcrane]

See, there you go again, implying that the McCanns are calculating, heartless, uncaring parents.  Did it occur to you that the McCanns may have taken professional advice on this matter from people who do actually know what they are talking about and who don't see the offering of a reward as the simple solution to the case that you seem to see it as?

That's the problem you see.  The people they are talking to and taking advice from are a useless bunch.  One of them was responsible for an innocent man being imprisoned for years for the murder of Jill Dando yet remains in post.  That clown of a detective and a few others of the same ilk should have been booted out but no he and they are still there advising people like the McCanns and no doubt looking to stitch up the next poor sod with some sort of learning difficulty who is easily influenced.  Amaral must be laughing his socks off at them with their latest suspect list which in the end and £millions later will lead nowhere.

Maybe the McCanns are content to follow the official line and keep their heads down?  A little PR here, an odd interview there once in a while, an occasional fun run and not forgetting Kates patronage of a missing children organisation.  All great stuff but how exactly will any of this go any way to finding their daughter after 6 long years???

So you completely dismiss out of hand any of the potential downsides associated with the business of offering a reward?  You are obviously very knowledgeable about the benefits of offering a reward - perhaps you can give some real-life examples of people found because of the reward offered?

After 6 years wasted what downsides exactly are we talking about?    We already have the downside, Madeleine is as much lost as she was on 3rd May 2007.   The offer of a reward has brought forward  much information over the years, the police use this tool regularly as do the national Press when they get involved.  Do you really believe they wouldn't offer a reward if there was little success of it being of assistance?   The UK charity Crimestoppers use rewards regularly in all sorts of cases which again proves that the offer of a reward is conducive to solving cases.

You must address your concerns to the Scotland Yard Review Team - perhaps they can shed some light on it.

Why, always, the vehement objection to the McCanns, themselves, being directly questioned about  anything  ?

What is the problem with asking  them  to clarify whether or not a reward is on offer  ?

What reason  exists  that prevents them from giving a clear and straightforward answer to such a simple question  ?

[sadie]

Unless I have misinterpreted things, cos they actually tell me nothing concrete, I think that SY know more than you think, but they are working thru it

I do glean things tho and have reasons for saying this.  Let them get on with it.  Be patient




I hope that I am right.

[Benice]

That may seem easy from the outside...

The McCanns were there for months. Neither they, nor the PIs could have interviewed anyone who chose not to talk to them.

There was no point in them staying there with the hostile atmosphere once they'd been made arguidos - and there were the twins to consider.

If Gerry had not gone back to work, they'd have had to have lived off the fund. And he no doubt mentally he needed a constructive focus that gave him a breather for part of the day from the emotional trauma.

Once they got hold of the files, there was obviously a lot to check through, detail by detail.

I really don't see what staying on in PT would have achieved.

What did they do for months?  Sat in PDL twiddling their thumbs until Amaral decided they were involved and the moment he was forced to lift the arguido status they flew back to the UK.   You don't give up on your child just because the police are a little hostile to you.  The McCanns are qualified doctors, they could have got a job in Portugal quite easily and used their spare time to effectively look for their missing daughter but no...not to be. I am not in the lease surprised that many people are critical of their decision to return to the UK and effectively abandon their child to her fate.  Just awful imo.

If the McCanns had known for sure that Madeleine was still in Portugal - then I've no doubt they would have remained.  But as the biggest and most comprehensive search ever conducted in Portugal had failed to find her - I think they were entitled to believe that it was highly likely she had been taken out of the country.    They then  followed the advice given regarding missing children and concentrated on trying to keep her profile as  high as possible in the public's mind  - that being the best chance there was of her being found.    I think they did the right thing.

[Angelo222]

But they haven't managed to keep her profile in the public domain.  She is hardly ever mentioned in the Press any more and there are few posters if any to be seen around the country about her.  If you travel abroad there are no posters in any of the airports because no one wants to damage their tourism industry by reminding anyone that child abductors exist.  Save for a few tweets and mentions on forums like this one nobody cares.  Is that reality??