Should the McCanns go back to Portugal to look for Madeleine?

[DCI]

I have a slightly different suggestion, Angelo.

Imagine that you're Gerry McCann at 22:10 in a foreign country and have just discovered that your child has disappeared, seemingly abducted.

Why not lead us through what you would have done differently from then on?

I have no gripe with what they did immediately on finding her gone but I do with what they did immediately after the arguido status was lifted.  The perception is that they scuttled off home like scared rats.  Harsh but true.

Try to keep up with the case. They were still arguidos when they left Portugal and remained so or many months when they were back in England. Your grasp of simple facts calls into question your understanding of the whole affair.

Well spotted, debunker 

Don't you just love these experts, and their reserach?

[Carana]

@ Angelo

You haven't replied to the question I asked you this morning. It's ok if you don't want to, but just in case you missed it:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1666.msg50448#msg50448

[Angelo222]

I have a slightly different suggestion, Angelo.

Imagine that you're Gerry McCann at 22:10 in a foreign country and have just discovered that your child has disappeared, seemingly abducted.

Why not lead us through what you would have done differently from then on?

I have no gripe with what they did immediately on finding her gone but I do with what they did immediately after the arguido status was lifted.  The perception is that they scuttled off home like scared rats.  Harsh but true.

Ok... so at which point do you think they went off track?

NB: They went back home way before arguido status was lifted.

My apologies Carana as I didn't see your question before leaving.  I should have made it clear that the McCanns were made arguidos on the Friday and jetted off home two days later on the Sunday in September 2007.  The arguido status was lifted in July 2008.  They went off track the moment they refused to answer the detectives questions at the police station.  As I stated previously...the McCanns received some bad advice at that point in time as their actions have both then and now been perceived as being sinister.

[Angelo222]

YES a lot of anti Mccann posters would LIKE to prefer she is forgotten - but she certainly isn't.

May I suggest that you contact the Mccanns with your plans and discuss it direct with them your obvious expertise in abduction and searches for missing children will be most welcomed by them.

The only time she is ever mentioned is when some other poor little kid goes missing or when one or more are found after many years in captivity.  Then there are the occasional Press Releases by the Met clearly fashioned to justify their own existence in the case at great public expense.  In reality what emerges is yet more old news repackaged as if it was some great breakthrough after 6 years but all the while just more dead ends and tomorrows chip paper.

As for contacting the McCanns, a total waste of time.  Seems they don't even answer their e-mails to the Find Madeleine site any more. More Bunkum.

[Redblossom]

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[gilet]

YES a lot of anti Mccann posters would LIKE to prefer she is forgotten - but she certainly isn't.

May I suggest that you contact the Mccanns with your plans and discuss it direct with them your obvious expertise in abduction and searches for missing children will be most welcomed by them.

The only time she is ever mentioned is when some other poor little kid goes missing or when one or more are found after many years in captivity.  Then there are the occasional Press Releases by the Met clearly fashioned to justify their own existence in the case at great public expense.  In reality what emerges is yet more old news repackaged as if it was some great breakthrough after 6 years but all the while just more dead ends and tomorrows chip paper.

As for contacting the McCanns, a total waste of time.  Seems they don't even answer their e-mails to the Find Madeleine site any more. More Bunkum.

That claim is simply untrue.

Madeleine is mentioned at every anniversary for example regardless of other cases.

If news media choose to link her name to other cases how are the McCanns supposed to regulate that?

And what qualifications do you have which make you better qualified than others in the police, media etc to judge whether leads are relevant or not?

[Redblossom]

YES a lot of anti Mccann posters would LIKE to prefer she is forgotten - but she certainly isn't.

May I suggest that you contact the Mccanns with your plans and discuss it direct with them your obvious expertise in abduction and searches for missing children will be most welcomed by them.

The only time she is ever mentioned is when some other poor little kid goes missing or when one or more are found after many years in captivity.  Then there are the occasional Press Releases by the Met clearly fashioned to justify their own existence in the case at great public expense.  In reality what emerges is yet more old news repackaged as if it was some great breakthrough after 6 years but all the while just more dead ends and tomorrows chip paper.

As for contacting the McCanns, a total waste of time.  Seems they don't even answer their e-mails to the Find Madeleine site any more. More Bunkum.

True

The other real issue is that missing and murdered childrens parents invariably break up, one blames the other and vice versa, it is unprecedented inthe main they stay together, thats what make me think neither were culpable but both were, if they found her dead

[Mo Stache]

YES a lot of anti Mccann posters would LIKE to prefer she is forgotten - but she certainly isn't.

May I suggest that you contact the Mccanns with your plans and discuss it direct with them your obvious expertise in abduction and searches for missing children will be most welcomed by them.

The only time she is ever mentioned is when some other poor little kid goes missing or when one or more are found after many years in captivity.  Then there are the occasional Press Releases by the Met clearly fashioned to justify their own existence in the case at great public expense.  In reality what emerges is yet more old news repackaged as if it was some great breakthrough after 6 years but all the while just more dead ends and tomorrows chip paper.

As for contacting the McCanns, a total waste of time.  Seems they don't even answer their e-mails to the Find Madeleine site any more. More Bunkum.

I wonder if you'd still feel the same if it were your child that went missing?

[Redblossom]

YES a lot of anti Mccann posters would LIKE to prefer she is forgotten - but she certainly isn't.

May I suggest that you contact the Mccanns with your plans and discuss it direct with them your obvious expertise in abduction and searches for missing children will be most welcomed by them.

The only time she is ever mentioned is when some other poor little kid goes missing or when one or more are found after many years in captivity.  Then there are the occasional Press Releases by the Met clearly fashioned to justify their own existence in the case at great public expense.  In reality what emerges is yet more old news repackaged as if it was some great breakthrough after 6 years but all the while just more dead ends and tomorrows chip paper.

As for contacting the McCanns, a total waste of time.  Seems they don't even answer their e-mails to the Find Madeleine site any more. More Bunkum.

I wonder if you'd still feel the same if it were your child that went missing?

Moralising  claptrap only thing you people use, to outfarm the mccanns guilt culpability and liea,  its defunct and frankly sick

[Mo Stache]

Someones chip paper is another mans hope. Never knock hope.

[sadie]

I have tried, but I am not being allowed to delete and add another line



Instead of the post that you object to, I was trying to post

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In many ways against my better judgement, cos children are more important than mouthy adults.

Btw, what did you call her Registrar?

[Angelo222]

The topic header is Should the McCanns go back to Portugal to look for Madeleine? and it is my submission that they should.  Pro McCanns appear to have a problem with this which is strange since you would think that the parents of a missing child would want to do so??  I keep asking myself what are they scared of?  Has the publication of the Madeleine book with all its criticisms contributed to this??

[xtina]

I have a slightly different suggestion, Angelo.

Imagine that you're Gerry McCann at 22:10 in a foreign country and have just discovered that your child has disappeared, seemingly abducted.

Why not lead us through what you would have done differently from then on?

I have no gripe with what they did immediately on finding her gone but I do with what they did immediately after the arguido status was lifted.  The perception is that they scuttled off home like scared rats.  Harsh but true.

Ok... so at which point do you think they went off track?

NB: They went back home way before arguido status was lifted.

My apologies Carana as I didn't see your question before leaving.  I should have made it clear that the McCanns were made arguidos on the Friday and jetted off home two days later on the Sunday in September 2007.  The arguido status was lifted in July 2008.  They went off track the moment they refused to answer the detectives questions at the police station.  As I stated previously...the McCanns received some bad advice at that point in time as their actions have both then and now been perceived as being sinister.

Yes and up until they were made arguido's....they had no intention of leaving Portugal .....,where K felt close to maddie.

K was also told by not answering the questions ...she could harm the investigation ..her answer was yes

[sadie]

The topic header is Should the McCanns go back to Portugal to look for Madeleine? and it is my submission that they should.  Pro McCanns appear to have a problem with this which is strange since you would think that the parents of a missing child would want to do so??  I keep asking myself what are they scared of?  Has the publication of the Madeleine book with all its criticisms contributed to this??

Angelo, we have gone over this so many times.

It is all a matter of intellect whether you physically go and look in a country that is about 400 miles x 100 miles, or you do it the sensible way via NSY?

It is also a question of priority.  Do you put your missing child continually over your other children?

Then there is the language problem ... and the natives aggression problem

Cultural problems


Added to this is a police force that behaves as a Totalitarian state behaves.  Makes up stories in order to clamp "troublesome (LOL)" peeps in jail ... and then beats them up.

Additionally everything to do with this case is being twisted.  Disinformation given out.  So bad, that if you are told it is "that away" then you automatically look in a different direction. 

Information is also being deleted from the internet.  If you are searching and even the names of the streets have gone missing off GEarth, as was the case prior to SY, it becomes ridiculous.


An extremely influential group are hiding Madeleine and what has happened to her.  Little doubt about that.


Also certain groups have proved themselves capable of deliberately putting out propaganda.  Look at the Leonor Cipriana case.  Look at the Michael Cook case.

And evil no brainer [ censored word] who have gone out of their way to try and prevent /disrupt the search for Madeleine.

 I repeat that " evil no brainer [ censored word] who have gone out of their way to try and prevent /disrupt the search for Madeleine

Certain people do not want these children found and that goes beyond the actual perp.  There is another agenda apart from the obvious one.

Names are being protected and so is money making mega style.



What chance would a couple of parents, who dont even speak the lingo have in such an alien situation?

The Mccanns might bleed inside wanting to do what you suggest, but they are sensible intelligent people and have been searching the other way.  The intellectual way, rather than the dash in and cause mayhem way



OK? 

[sadie]

Wumming, wumming, wumming

Same old, same old, same old



Can you stop wumming pls Xtina?