Why not report the abduction at the Tapas Bar rather than Main Reception?

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Offline AnneGuedes

In the Paraiso of PDL, I asked some information to a waiter in Portuguese, he was puzzled, I repeated and he answered.. in English !

I may have missed something here - are you saying that YOU have spoken to a waiter?

[gilet]

It may be worth reminding people of the fact that a 2013 survey shows that only very small proportions of the general population are even aware of 112 being the Europe-wide emergency number.

"According to the latest Eurobarometer Survey on 112, 13% of British people know they can use 112 everywhere in the EU."

http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/112-united-kingdom

"According to the latest Eurobarometer Survey on 112, 29% of Portuguese people know they can use 112 everywhere in the EU."

https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/112-portugal

And that though theoretically you will be put through to a bi-lingual speaker, the reality (as I can personally testify) is that is not the case. In my instance it took a short time for an English speaker to be mustered, a matter of about three minutes I would estimate.

[Eleanor]

It may be worth reminding people of the fact that a 2013 survey shows that only very small proportions of the general population are even aware of 112 being the Europe-wide emergency number.

"According to the latest Eurobarometer Survey on 112, 13% of British people know they can use 112 everywhere in the EU."

http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/112-united-kingdom

"According to the latest Eurobarometer Survey on 112, 29% of Portuguese people know they can use 112 everywhere in the EU."

https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/112-portugal

And that though theoretically you will be put through to a bi-lingual speaker, the reality (as I can personally testify) is that is not the case. In my instance it took a short time for an English speaker to be mustered, a matter of about three minutes I would estimate.

You were lucky.  Only three minutes?

[gilet]

It may be worth reminding people of the fact that a 2013 survey shows that only very small proportions of the general population are even aware of 112 being the Europe-wide emergency number.

"According to the latest Eurobarometer Survey on 112, 13% of British people know they can use 112 everywhere in the EU."

http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/112-united-kingdom

"According to the latest Eurobarometer Survey on 112, 29% of Portuguese people know they can use 112 everywhere in the EU."

https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/112-portugal

And that though theoretically you will be put through to a bi-lingual speaker, the reality (as I can personally testify) is that is not the case. In my instance it took a short time for an English speaker to be mustered, a matter of about three minutes I would estimate.

You were lucky.  Only three minutes?

I am a lucky kind of person in general.

Lucky in two respects in this particular case. Firstly that it was only about three minutes and secondly because the incident was very effectively dealt with. It was not in Portugal by the way.

[Mrs. B]

Also, we have seen how wide spread the area occupied by OC really was, how does anyone expect holiday makers to know how to describe exactly WHERE in the resort they were currently at. It is also highly unlikely that the person answering the phone at the other end was familiar with the resort or the layout. The natural thing for any holiday maker would be to head straight for reception, where the only staff in the resorts, who have received some type of training to deal with emergency situations, are at.

[AnneGuedes]

Have some empathy with these people and realise that English speakers gravitate to English speakers especially if they know their language skills are not great.

Your claim unbelievers should have empathy has been memorized, don't worry. You'll achieve nothing by repeating it, except for hurting people you don't even know.
N'en rajoutez pas mon cher, ce n'est pas ainsi que les hommes vivent !
You didn't understand, lack of subtlety ? : the waiter was expecting me to speak English or German, not Portuguese. That's why I had to repeat.

[Eleanor]

Even Anne Guedes says that the waiter didn't understand her at first.  Was that because his English was better than her Portuguese?

As for reporting the abduction to The Tapas Bar Reception. This is what I thought they had done.  Although personally, I can't see the difference.  Surely these two Reception Areas must be in some kind of communication.

[AnneGuedes]

The natural thing for any holiday maker would be to head straight for reception, where the only staff in the resorts, who have received some type of training to deal with emergency situations, are at.

25 minutes ! Bravo !

[amaraltheofficeboy]

anne have you spoken direct to a waiter in Tapas or OC?

[gilet]

Have some empathy with these people and realise that English speakers gravitate to English speakers especially if they know their language skills are not great.

Your claim unbelievers should have empathy has been memorized, don't worry. You'll achieve nothing by repeating it, except for hurting people you don't even know.
N'en rajoutez pas mon cher, ce n'est pas ainsi que les hommes vivent !
You didn't understand, lack of subtlety ? : the waiter was expecting me to speak English or German, not Portuguese. That's why I had to repeat.

Does this post actually mean something?

Incidentally I am not your "dear" and never will be. Such forms of address are quite unnecessary.

And the idea that I have memorized something regarding empathy is quite mystifying.

I merely commented that your previous post showed no empathy and enjoined you to perhaps find it within you to show some. And I did so because your post did not show empathy, not because I had memorized something.

Your post identified a clear reason why the McCanns would choose Reception rather than a barman/waiter to convey such a vital message. That was the interesting part.

[AnneGuedes]

Even Anne Guedes says that the waiter didn't understand her at first.  Was that because his English was better than her Portuguese?

He understood of course. Just a question of automatism. When lecturing in French, if a porter opened the door and asked something,  it happened I answered in French, only realizing it thanks to the porter's bewilderment.

[Eleanor]

The natural thing for any holiday maker would be to head straight for reception, where the only staff in the resorts, who have received some type of training to deal with emergency situations, are at.

25 minutes ! Bravo !

Don't be ridiculous.  And why are you so keen to enforce the idea that it took 25 minutes?  It didn't.

[Eleanor]

Have some empathy with these people and realise that English speakers gravitate to English speakers especially if they know their language skills are not great.

Your claim unbelievers should have empathy has been memorized, don't worry. You'll achieve nothing by repeating it, except for hurting people you don't even know.
N'en rajoutez pas mon cher, ce n'est pas ainsi que les hommes vivent !
You didn't understand, lack of subtlety ? : the waiter was expecting me to speak English or German, not Portuguese. That's why I had to repeat.

So The Waiter didn't understand your Portuguese.  That much is obvious.

[AnneGuedes]

Your claim unbelievers should have empathy has been memorized, don't worry. You'll achieve nothing by repeating it, except for hurting people you don't even know.

the idea that I have memorized something regarding empathy is quite mystifying.

So egocentric ! Obviously the agent isn't you !
BTW "mon cher" was rhetorical..

[AnneGuedes]

The natural thing for any holiday maker would be to head straight for reception, where the only staff in the resorts, who have received some type of training to deal with emergency situations, are at.

25 minutes ! Bravo !

Don't be ridiculous.  And why are you so keen to enforce the idea that it took 25 minutes?  It didn't.

Believers shouldn't be rude if they hope (but do they ?) to convince unbelievers.
Why don't you say how long it took to call the police at 22h41 ?