Who's up for a game of Perjury?

[John]

We all know that Goncalo Amaral ended up in court and convicted of a crime because of his ability to lie, and we know that Sofia Leal has mislead people into thinking those documents were false, when the truth is they were authenticated, admitted as evidence and mentioned in the court judgement; so please tell me why would five Inspectors and a Police Officer put their careers at risk, by saying NO, when asked the following question?

Please provide a link or evidence to substantiate this claim TTSOFAFM otherwise this thread will expire.

[DCI]

Please provide a link or evidence to substantiate this claim TTSOFAFM otherwise this thread will expire.

Madeleine chief detective is convicted of falsifying evidence in separate missing child case.

Amaral was found guilty by a jury of falsified documents to help cover for his officers, following a seven month trial at Faro Court on the Algarve.

Today the three inspectors, Leonel Marques, Pereira Cristovao and Paulo Marques Bom, were all cleared of torturing the the Ciprianos, who are serving 16 years for murder.

A fifth officer, Antonio Nunes Cardoso, was found guilty of falsifying documents and was given a two-and-a-half year suspended jail sentence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186727/Madeleine-chief-detective-convicted-falsifying-evidence-separate-missing-child-case.html#ixzz2VLvdRQeS
 
If you would like the court ruling posted, please let me know!

[John]

DCI.

This is the claim which I require to be corroborated.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral ended up in court and convicted of a crime because of his ability to lie, and we know that Sofia Leal has mislead people into thinking those documents were false, when the truth is they were authenticated, admitted as evidence and mentioned in the court judgement; so please tell me why would five Inspectors and a Police Officer put their careers at risk, by saying NO, when asked the following question?

“Was anything said or done by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your contacts that may have raised any suspicion that they had knowledge of what happe[/color]ned to Madeleine, besides the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators? “

[DCI]

DCI.

This is the claim which I require to be corroborated.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral ended up in court and convicted of a crime because of his ability to lie, and we know that Sofia Leal has mislead people into thinking those documents were false, when the truth is they were authenticated, admitted as evidence and mentioned in the court judgement; so please tell me why would five Inspectors and a Police Officer put their careers at risk, by saying NO, when asked the following question?

 

http://madeleine-writingthewrongs.info/family-liaison-officers-statements/

[TTSOFAFM]

DCI.

This is the claim which I require to be corroborated.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral ended up in court and convicted of a crime because of his ability to lie, and we know that Sofia Leal has mislead people into thinking those documents were false, when the truth is they were authenticated, admitted as evidence and mentioned in the court judgement; so please tell me why would five Inspectors and a Police Officer put their careers at risk, by saying NO, when asked the following question?

I see the links have already been given re Amaral and perjury. The FLO statements are on McCannpjgiles.co.uk

Police inspector Caroline Burrows http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROLINE_BURROWS.htm
Police inspector Eleanor Johnson  http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ELEANOR_JOHNSON.htm
Police inspector Michael Graham  http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MICHAEL_GRAHAM.htm
Police inspector Neil Holden  http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_HOLDEN.htm
Police inspector Jim McGarvey http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm
Police officer Stephen Markley http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

So again my question is why would these officers perjurer themselves by giving a false statement? 

[Redblossom]

I see the links have already been given re Amaral and perjury. The FLO statements are on McCannpjgiles.co.uk

Police inspector Caroline Burrows http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROLINE_BURROWS.htm
Police inspector Eleanor Johnson  http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ELEANOR_JOHNSON.htm
Police inspector Michael Graham  http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MICHAEL_GRAHAM.htm
Police inspector Neil Holden  http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_HOLDEN.htm
Police inspector Jim McGarvey http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm
Police officer Stephen Markley http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

So again my question is why would these officers perjurer themselves by giving a false statement?

Remind me who said they had, ta

[AnneGuedes]

So again my question is why would these officers perjurer themselves by giving a false statement?

Why did 2 of them ask to complete the statement ?

[TTSOFAFM]

Remind me who said they had, ta

The Family Liaison Officers DID NOT find the McCann's actions suspicious.  They made statements to that effect.  So why do the anti McCanns (who were not in company of the McCann family) persist in saying that the actions of Gerry, Kate and their friends was suspicious?

[TTSOFAFM]

Why did 2 of them ask to complete the statement ?

Yes they added to their statements about Kate mentioning the crying incident. But they still categorically said NO to the question put to them about whether Kate and Gerry McCann acted suspiciously in their presence.

[Redblossom]

The Family Liaison Officers DID NOT find the McCann's actions suspicious.  They made statements to that effect.  So why do the anti McCanns (who were not in company of the McCann family) persist in saying that the actions of Gerry, Kate and their friends was suspicious?

I dont recall anyone saying British FLOs said they were suspicious of the Mccanns, apart from a faint recollection that someone in an official position kept asking KM where her daughter was and she dismissed them, after a week? Who was that?

There IS evidence that some British official was suspicious of them right at the start, oh here u go


http://www.mccannfiles.com/id282.html

Link in there doesnt work but here it is

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499340/British-diplomat-warned-Foreign-Office-concerns-McCanns.html

[TTSOFAFM]

It still doesn't answer my question though does it Redblossom, why would FLO categorically say NO to a question asking whether they saw any suspicious behaviour and risk committing perjury?

You can throw as many letters into the pot as you like, but surely the role of a Family Liaison Officer, apart from helping a family through a traumatic time, is to look for signs that the people they are helping are a) telling the truth and b) whether they could be involved in what has happened.

And it is clear from those statements that the Family Liaison Officers did not have any suspicions about the McCanns, so again why would they commit perjury?  Doesn't that tell the [ censored word] something?  Doesn't that tell the [ censored word] that officers who are trained  and  in contact with the McCann, family did not suspect them of a heinous crime?

[gilet]

Remind me who said they had, ta

I am not aware that anyone did say that. If they did so without proof it would be very stupid indeed as it would be libellous.

What is clear is that it is unlikely that five individual officers would perjure themselves and risk their careers in that way. I am sure you must agree with that.

And if they didn't perjure themselves as would seem highly likely then...

They are highly trained experts who are specifically tasked with looking for signs of deception as well as assisting the people involved in crimes.

Each of them was quite categorical in their belief that the McCanns exhibited no suspicious signs.

That is very powerful evidence that the McCanns were not in fact involved. It is quite baffling that those who have never even met the couple for a few seconds conversation should find it so easy to dismiss such valid evidence.

Thank you TTSOFAFM for reminding us that this group of professionals didn't suspect them.  Personally I put more faith in this group of people than in people like Almeida and Amaral whose reputations are in tatters after their criminal convictions for lying and torture. Just my opinon but one which I think stands up to scrutiny.

Why the anti-McCanns prefer to believe criminals, one of whom never even met the McCanns (Amaral) till long after he had been thrown off the case over these officers is a very interesting question. One which I have never seen them try to answer. I would be interested in knowing why people do believe the liar Amaral and the torturer Almeida over these officers as such belief seems to underpin a great deal of the anti McCann agenda. Anyone care to respond?

[TTSOFAFM]

Even Lee Rainbow who Amaral relied on so heavily stated that there was no evidence to implicate the family.  However he did say that avenue should be explored as a matter of formality

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/158018/McCann-twins-may-hold-clues-says-criminal-profiler

In the summary of the 30-page report Mr Rainbow wrote: “The potential involvement of the family in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann cannot be discarded, and it can be considered that, when pondering the basis for research, this hypothesis deserves as much attention as the criminal with sexual motivations that has been previously prioritised.

“It should be stressed that there is no evidence to directly support an involvement of the family, yet given the absence of decisive evidence to prove the contrary, such a scenario has to be explored.” At court last week, Mr Amaral’s lawyer, Antonio Cabrita, read out a section of 37-year-old Mr Rainbow’s report which said: “The family is a lead that should be followed.”

So we have 6 Family Liaison Officers and Lee Rainbow the profiler.

[Redblossom]

It still doesn't answer my question though does it Redblossom, why would FLO categorically say NO to a question asking whether they saw any suspicious behaviour and risk committing perjury?

You can throw as many letters into the pot as you like, but surely the role of a Family Liaison Officer, apart from helping a family through a traumatic time, is to look for signs that the people they are helping are a) telling the truth and b) whether they could be involved in what has happened.

And it is clear from those statements that the Family Liaison Officers did not have any suspicions about the McCanns, so again why would they commit perjury?  Doesn't that tell the [ censored word] something?  Doesn't that tell the [ censored word] that officers who are trained  and  in contact with the McCann, family did not suspect them of a heinous crime?

So what? They said NO, no one has said they said YES, so null and defunct point surely right  from the start

Oh and when did these officers go out? They wouldnt have been there right at the tme that gnr and pj were would they?

[gilet]

I dont recall anyone saying British FLOs said they were suspicious of the Mccanns, apart from a faint recollection that someone in an official position kept asking KM where her daughter was and she dismissed them, after a week? Who was that?

There IS evidence that some British official was suspicious of them right at the start, oh here u go


http://www.mccannfiles.com/id282.html

Link in there doesnt work but here it is

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499340/British-diplomat-warned-Foreign-Office-concerns-McCanns.html

First this diplomat story is rather off topic in a thread about the police officers.

But it is interesting that you have cited a news article as evidence. Not only is this just a Daily Mail news article but it is one which appears to be based entirely on the claims of one Duarte Levy, that great friend of Amaral. Levy is a liar. Remember those photos? Even Joana Morais called him a cheat and a liar. :)

So to challenge the clear and unmistakeable evidence from 5 British police officers you have cited a totally uncorroborated news story which emerged from Derniere Heure (which is nothing but a blog) which the liar Levy ran.

Why am I not surprised?

What to believe? The signed and sworn statements of five British police officers or the unreliable words in a news article sourced from a liar who is a friend of Amaral who was convicted of lying?

Hard one isn't it.