Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"

[Alfred R Jones]

Was he speaking English in court? How can you be certain of what he actually meant?  You can't.

Ask Faithlilly, she has all the answers.

[Alfred R Jones]

 If the dream was in no way significant to Paiva then why was it even mentioned in court? 

[mercury]

Thanks Anna, although Ms Govan shows she hasn't done her research that thoroughly and dropped qute a few errors in that report. Fancy that, for a journo working for a broadsheet!

Going back to why Gerry Mccann was so annoyed when he made that statement outside of court about Kate's dream, IMO it was probably to take away the idea that there was any belief by them that Madeleine was dead, seeing as they had said in every interview they believed the opposite.

Bit of an unnecessary overkill though, as in, the man protesteth too much?

[Alfred R Jones]

No sh*t Sherlock ! 

So how about challenging Mercury's views rather than my own, or is that against "sceptic" etiquette? 

[mercury]

Ask Faithlilly, she has all the answers.

No, I was asking you, seeing as you were so sure what he said and what he meant.but not to worry.

[Alfred R Jones]

No, I was asking you, seeing as you were so sure what he said and what he meant.but not to worry.

Sure, let's doubt every word reported or translated in the files, I'm fine with that.

[mercury]

Sure, let's doubt every word reported or translated in the files, I'm fine with that.

You will have a link then to Paivas recounting in the files then? Do share,as Ive not come across it.

[Alfred R Jones]

You will have a link then to Paivas recounting in the files then? Do share,as Ive not come across it.

No I don't have it.  I suspect the Telegraph completely made the whole thing up about the dream just to make him look like a complete idiot.  Is that the correct answer?

[mercury]

No I don't have it.  I suspect the Telegraph completely made the whole thing up about the dream just to make him look like a complete idiot.  Is that the correct answer?

Its the wrong answer as you brought up the files and what has the telegraph has got to do with the files I have no idea

 



Lets doubt what is reported in the files you said


Where??

[Alfred R Jones]

Its the wrong answer as you brought up the files and what has the telegraph has got to do with the files I have no idea

 



Lets doubt what is reported in the files you said


Where??

If you believe in the principle that something can be lost in translation, then surely this possibility applies to everything ever reported, whether by journalists, or policemen, yes?

 But tell me Mercury, do you think the Telegrapgh went so far as to actually misunderstand or mistranslate a reference to Kate's dream in court?  Do you think it was never even brought up by Paiva? What bonafide' reasonable explanation can there be for referencing a dream as evidence or explanation of anything at all, in your opinion?

[Benice]

Thanks Anna, although Ms Govan shows she hasn't done her research that thoroughly and dropped qute a few errors in that report. Fancy that, for a journo working for a broadsheet!

Going back to why Gerry Mccann was so annoyed when he made that statement outside of court about Kate's dream, IMO it was probably to take away the idea that there was any belief by them that Madeleine was dead, seeing as they had said in every interview they believed the opposite.

Bit of an unnecessary overkill though, as in, the man protesteth too much?

AFAIK - he made one short comment about the dream and has never made another one.   That's hardly 'overkill' is it?   He was correcting any idea that Kate had said she had a dream that Madeleine was dead and buried somewhere.   That was not true - and that was what he told the press.

I see nothing to criticise in that.

[Alfred R Jones]

AFAIK - he made one short comment about the dream and has never made another one.   That's hardly 'overkill' is it?   He was correcting any idea that Kate had said she had a dream that Madeleine was dead and buried somewhere.   That was not true - and that was what he told the press.

I see nothing to criticise in that.

the fact that it was a statement made by Gerry McCann means that it is ripe for criticism, whatever he said!!

[Benice]

the fact that it was a statement made by Gerry McCann means that it is ripe for criticism, whatever he said!!

LOL I'd actually typed something similar at the end of my post - but then deleted it.   

Having looked at the video again - I still can't see why some folk can claim he was 'SO annoyed' - or in fact claim that he was 'annoyed' at all!   What have I missed?
 

[stephen25000]

LOL I'd actually typed something similar at the end of my post - but then deleted it.   

Having looked at the video again - I still can't see why some folk can claim he was 'SO annoyed' - or in fact claim that he was 'annoyed' at all!   What have I missed?

How about merely stating the obvious, which some try to deny ?

[Benice]

How about merely stating the obvious, which some try to deny ?

You've lost me Stephen - care to elaborate on what Gerry said about the dream?  What is it that is 'obvious' to you that others have missed?   Or could you point out where he shows his extreme annoyance in the video?  I've missed that too.