Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"

[icabodcrane]

Calling someone a liar could lead to an accusation of libel if the person accused of lying disputes the accusation, do you not agree?  Calling someone a f**cking tosser is not libellous, it's fair comment.   

Perhaps Kate did not take the opportunity, in her book,  to point out that Paiva was, at least  'mistaken'  about the phonecall she made to him,  because he was, in fact,  telling the truth  ? 

[gilet]

During the McCanns attempt to have Amaral's book banned Ricardo Paiva gave evidence of a telephone call made by Kate, while Gerry was absent, relating a dream she had had in which her daughters's body was on a hillside in PDL.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6977977/Madeleine-McCann-mothers-dream-was-turning-point-in-investigation-court-hears.html

Of course Gerry, in front of the world's press, denied that Kate had ever had such a dream or that something must have been lost in translation ( unlikely as Paiva spoke perfect English).

What are we to make of this episode ?

Did Kate keep the phonecall from Gerry and, if so, why ?

Guessing again.

No possible relevance to the abduction as dreams don't count as evidence, not knowing what your wife dreamt is not a crime and once again all that is being asked for are guesses based on no knowledge, facts or anything else with any validity.

Why am I not surprised?

[AnneGuedes]

Calling someone a f**cking tosser is not libellous, it's fair comment.   

When you're called this way, it gives you a feeling of fairness ? If so, I admire you.

[AnneGuedes]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fair%20comment

If someone calls me a f**king tosser then it s clear that that is their opinion - it may be a fair assessment of my behaviour or character or it may not, however It is not libellous.

I wasn't arguing whether this insult was libellous or not. Only asking if you would find it fair.

[AnneGuedes]

That would depend on whether or not I had behaved like a f**king tosser.

Ah ! Martha, I appreciate your honesty.

[faithlilly]

Guessing again.

No possible relevance to the abduction as dreams don't count as evidence, not knowing what your wife dreamt is not a crime and once again all that is being asked for are guesses based on no knowledge, facts or anything else with any validity.

Why am I not surprised?

Why am I not surprised you said why am I not surprised 

[faithlilly]

For when you simply can't mount a sensible defence for your pointless thread - resort to a cheap, smart-ar..d one-liner and a goading smiley...

Well the thread has thus far ran to 8 pages so the OP was obviously not without merit 

[John]

Paiva didn't share it will the world's media. It was part of his evidence to the court.

A police officer who is tasked with liaison duties should not be disclosing private confidences under any circumstances. End off!!

[icabodcrane]

A police officer who is tasked with liaison duties should not be disclosing private confidences under any circumstances. End off!!

He was called as a witness in a court case John

He was legally obliged to answer,  honestly, any questions put to him

 

[DCI]

A police officer who is tasked with liaison duties should not be disclosing private confidences under any circumstances. End off!!

Just like private details, Felicia Cabrita got her hands on, in Portimao police station office. Given to her, or sold?

[John]

He was called as a witness in a court case John

He was legally obliged to answer,  honestly, any questions put to him

 

He was not obliged to divulge confidences.  Just think what would happen if every victim thought that anything they told a police liaison officer could end up being made public?

The truth however was that Paiva was simply an Amaral mole sent in to sniff!   There are other cases hosted on this forum where the exact same thing happened.

[icabodcrane]

He was not obliged to divulge confidences.  Just think what would happen if every victim thought that anything they told a police liaison officer could end up being made public?

The truth however was that Paiva was simply an Amaral mole sent in to sniff!

Do you think Paiva was telling the truth about the phone call Kate made to tell him about her dream  ?

Or do you believe Gerry when he says no such phone call took place ?

[John]

The dream appears to exist as it has been corroborated by Kate herself. 

Don't know about the phone call though.   >@@(*&)

[DCI]

He was not obliged to divulge confidences.  Just think what would happen if every victim thought that anything they told a police liaison officer could end up being made public?

The truth however was that Paiva was simply an Amaral mole sent in to sniff!   There are other cases hosted on this forum where the exact same thing happened.

 

Hooray, someone else has joined the dots.

[icabodcrane]

The dream appears to exist as it has been corroborated by Kate herself. 

Don't know about the phone call though.   >@@(*&)

When was the dream corroborated by Kate  ?