Author Topic: Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"  (Read 128310 times)

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stephen25000

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you misunderstand...and we are speaking the same language...my translation..as in...the one I posted...not the one I translated

Your 'interprtetation' of course.

Jaundiced  by your 100% backing of the mccanns.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 08:24:23 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Your 'interprtetation' of course.

Jaundiced  by your 100% backing of the mccanns.

try  the mccannpjfiles

stephen25000

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try  the mccannpjfiles


Can you provide the relevant link ?


Offline mercury

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm
I say, Davel, you posting a link, a rarity if I ever saw one


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Good job old boy


Alfred R Jones

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That is not what I said, so please stop misquoting me and continually shifting the goalposts, thanks.
(It is possible you don't understand the essence of some of my posts, for that you are forgiven, if true)
What did you say then, if not that something may have been lost in translation in the reporting of the dream thing?

Offline Mr Gray

I say, Davel, you posting a link, a rarity if I ever saw one


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Good job old boy

so the two translations are quite dfferrent

Offline mercury

What did you say then, if not that something may have been lost in translation in the reporting of the dream thing?

Read back and see

Offline mercury

so the two translations are quite dfferrent

I have no idea, I haven't followed your argument tonight, was just commenting on a fact

Alfred R Jones

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Read back and see
I just did.  That is what you said.  You also asked me how can I be sure what was said in court and if Paiva spoke English. Clearly you believe something was misreported. 

Offline mercury

I just did.  That is what you said.  You also asked me how can I be sure what was said in court and if Paiva spoke English. Clearly you believe something was misreported.

I said no one can know what Paiva meant when he said there was a turn in the investigation. I believe it is possible that comment related to the whole timeline of July when Krugel, Harrison and Grime were brought in.

Alfred R Jones

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I said no one can know what Paiva meant when he said there was a turn in the investigation. I believe it is possible that comment related to the whole timeline of July when Krugel, Harrison and Grime were brought in.
Do you believe that the subject of the dream was brought up by Paiva in court and if so why do you think it merited a mention as far as he was concerned?

Offline pathfinder73

They hired Krugel to look for a body before the dream.

'I know where Madeleine is buried' says body finder hired by McCanns

The McCanns turned to him in July to spend a week investigating Madeleine's disappearance after being deluged with emails from members of the public recommending him as a "genius".

He said: "Gerry sent me a strand of Madeleine's hair for DNA purposes, which had been removed from her coat."

Krugel landed in Praia da Luz with his machine on July 17 and embarked on a four day search - with the blessing of Portuguese detectives.
He said: "I had a meeting with Kate and Gerry where I explained exactly how my technology works and what I was going to do.
"They knew a lot about my work already because people had posted messages about me on the Find Madeleine website.
"The police were fully aware of the work I was about to do.
"I set off with some colleagues and we conducted an extensive search of Praia da Luz using the machine.
"I scoured many different places across the resort and spent time near ports and other exit points in Praia da Luz.
"We spent 16 hours a day searching everywhere - nothing was left unsearched."

But under Portuguese law Krugel is forbidden from revealing the exact spot as he has mentioned it in a police statement.
But sources close to the investigation told the Sunday Mirror that it is a spot on the beach in Praia da Luz near where Gerry regularly went running.
Krugel said: "The technology I use picks up a trace using DNA and complex and secret science techniques. Every day the trace was strongest in this one area.
"The machine was highlighting the same co-ordinate and it kept drawing me back there. It left me convinced that Madeleine was there.
"My machine has a 90 per cent success rate, so I am convinced this is the place where Madeleine is buried."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486196/I-know-Madeleine-buried-says-body-finder-hired-McCanns.html

IN SEARCH OF A BODY, WITH KRUGEL'S MACHINE

Kate heard of a man called Krugel, a former South African army colonel, who had allegedly perfected a machine enabling him to detect the presence of a body. A decomposing body emits particles: if hair from the deceased person is placed in the machine, it detects identical particles. On June 9th, Kate asks friends to go to her home in England to collect some of her daughter's hair and send it to Krugel.

On June 28th, the McCanns request Krugel's presence in the Algarve. They want to make his intervention official and seek the agreement of the PJ. Thanks to Madeleine's hair, the South African allegedly determined a sort of imaginary line that allowed him to state that the body was in the Vila da Luz area. The Portuguese and English police learn, with amazement, about these supposed cutting-edge technologies dedicated to locating bodies. Of course, we knew that such apparatus existed, especially in the United States, but Krugel's mysterious, "machine," leaves us all speechless. Kate and Gerry, they stick to their guns. They saw a television programme in which the effectiveness of Krugel's method was demonstrated, and so are persuaded that the man will be able to move the investigation forward. Without being convinced as to the validity of the method, the police end up acceding to their request. (TOTL)
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 11:00:26 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Do you believe that the subject of the dream was brought up by Paiva in court and if so why do you think it merited a mention as far as he was concerned?

I don't believe anything, I wasnt there, I have no idea what he was asked, it matters not, the only thing that matters is a)if Madeleine Mccann is dead or alive andb) who is responsible for both scenarios

Offline Brietta

They hired Krugel to look for a body before the dream.

'I know where Madeleine is buried' says body finder hired by McCanns

The McCanns turned to him in July to spend a week investigating Madeleine's disappearance after being deluged with emails from members of the public recommending him as a "genius".

He said: "Gerry sent me a strand of Madeleine's hair for DNA purposes, which had been removed from her coat."

Krugel landed in Praia da Luz with his machine on July 17 and embarked on a four day search - with the blessing of Portuguese detectives.
He said: "I had a meeting with Kate and Gerry where I explained exactly how my technology works and what I was going to do.
"They knew a lot about my work already because people had posted messages about me on the Find Madeleine website.
"The police were fully aware of the work I was about to do.
"I set off with some colleagues and we conducted an extensive search of Praia da Luz using the machine.
"I scoured many different places across the resort and spent time near ports and other exit points in Praia da Luz.
"We spent 16 hours a day searching everywhere - nothing was left unsearched."

But under Portuguese law Krugel is forbidden from revealing the exact spot as he has mentioned it in a police statement.
But sources close to the investigation told the Sunday Mirror that it is a spot on the beach in Praia da Luz near where Gerry regularly went running.
Krugel said: "The technology I use picks up a trace using DNA and complex and secret science techniques. Every day the trace was strongest in this one area.
"The machine was highlighting the same co-ordinate and it kept drawing me back there. It left me convinced that Madeleine was there.
"My machine has a 90 per cent success rate, so I am convinced this is the place where Madeleine is buried."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486196/I-know-Madeleine-buried-says-body-finder-hired-McCanns.html

Did they hire Dani Krugel?
I was under the impression he did it pro bono.

Quote
All services Danie have provided this far have been free off charge. In the majority of cases Danie paid his own travel and accommodation expenses and sacrificed benefits provided by his employer. Unquote
http://www.daniekrugelfacts.com/

There is no doubt that Mr Krugel advertises his successes in finding living people ... and that is what the Drs McCann are looking for ... their live daughter.

The thought arises though ... if Madeleine's remains have been pin pointed ... why haven't they been retrieved?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....