Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"

[faithlilly]

You state,  "Gerry, in front of the world's press, denied that Kate had ever had such a dream"

Then contradict yourself, by asking "Did Kate keep the phonecall from Gerry and, if so, why?"

If as you say Gerry lied, in front of the world's press,surely you have a cite for that, lie.

Don't be coy DCI I'm sure you saw Gerry inform the press outside the Lisbon courtroom that Kate had never had such a dream. It was just before he scurried off back to old Blighty and left Kate to tackle her court ordeal without him.

[Eleanor]

Wouldn't you think that since The PJ found absolutely nothing, that this would have told them something?

[DCI]

Don't be coy DCI I'm sure you saw Gerry inform the press outside the Lisbon courtroom that Kate had never had such a dream. It was just before he scurried off back to old Blighty and left Kate to tackle her court ordeal without him.

Actually, I didn't . Thats why I asked for a cite.
Gerry scurried off, did he?

[AnneGuedes]

It was just before he scurried off back to old Blighty and left Kate to tackle her court ordeal without him.
If I hadn't been there I wouldn't understand what this means.

[icabodcrane]

Actually, I didn't . Thats why I asked for a cite.
Gerry scurried off, did he?

He did appear flustered and angry when he spoke outside the court  ...  and he did return to the UK, leaving Kate to face the final day without him

[Redblossom]

I have read that article twice and can't see any mentions of Gerry denying that the dream ever happened. Can you please provide the quote/statement, as I currently don't see it. Thank you.

video (right at the beginning)and news article


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWkrLLLX7cY&feature=youtube_gdata_player


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/151642/McCanns-fury-at-death-claim


He then went on to contradict Dr Paiva’s evidence that Kate had seen Madeleine on a hillside in a dream. He said: “I’d like to make it absolutely clear that Kate has never had a dream that Maddie has been buried somewhere, and I don’t know if something’s been lost in interpretation, but that didn’t happen – not with those words, that’s for sure.”

[John]

It seems that a lot of people have had dreams in the Madeleine disappearance case.  Didn't they spend oodles of money searching some reservoir on the basis of yet another physic experience by some deluded lawyer.  You couldn't make it up if you tried.

That said, it was to be expected that Kate would have dreams about the events as it was such an ordeal.  She obviously felt that sharing it with a caring copper might have helped.  Little did she know that the s..mbag would share it with the worlds media.

[Benice]

He did appear flustered and angry when he spoke outside the court  ...  and he did return to the UK, leaving Kate to face the final day without him

I thought she had her best friend Fiona with her?

[icabodcrane]

I thought she had her best friend Fiona with her?

I though Fiona was shipped in when Gerry made his hasty departure ?

[faithlilly]

It was just before he scurried off back to old Blighty and left Kate to tackle her court ordeal without him.
If I hadn't been there I wouldn't understand what this means.

Apologies Anne. Blighty means the UK.

[faithlilly]

It seems that a lot of people have had dreams in the Madeleine disappearance case.  Didn't they spend oodles of money searching some reservoir on the basis of yet another physic experience by some deluded lawyer.  You couldn't make it up if you tried.

That said, it was to be expected that Kate would have dreams about the events as it was such an ordeal.  She obviously felt that sharing it with a caring copper might have helped.  Little did she know that the s..mbag would share it with the worlds media.

Paiva didn't share it will the world's media. It was part of his evidence to the court.

[Mo Stache]

video (right at the beginning)and news article


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWkrLLLX7cY&feature=youtube_gdata_player


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/151642/McCanns-fury-at-death-claim


He then went on to contradict Dr Paiva’s evidence that Kate had seen Madeleine on a hillside in a dream. He said: “I’d like to make it absolutely clear that Kate has never had a dream that Maddie has been buried somewhere, and I don’t know if something’s been lost in interpretation, but that didn’t happen – not with those words, that’s for sure.”

"Kate had seen Madeleine on a hillside in a dream" she never said Madeleine is dead and buried on that hill. The polices interpretation was that Madeleine is buried there. Dreams can have several interpretations. Kate does not specify that Madeleine was dead or a ghost, she just said "seen Madeleine on a hillside".

Is everyone you dream of dead? And when you dream of 'alive' people are they all alive? It's a matter of interpretation, but the police decided to interpret it so that it gave their agenda more weight and the anti McCann's something else to nit pick about. 

[Benice]

I though Fiona was shipped in when Gerry made his hasty departure ?

From Kates book
Gerry had to leave towards the end of the second day because of work commitments, and Fiona kindly ageed to fly out and join me.  The first two days had highlighted the injustices heaped on Madeleine, provoking a lot of anger, exasperation and hurt, and Gerry was worried about leaving me to face more of the same on my own.  I'm sure I'd have been fine, but it was good to have Fiona there all the same.
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It sounds to me as if Fiona arrived as Gerry left, and she was there with Kate for the last day - and the journey home.

[Mo Stache]

Paiva's own words:

"She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there".

"She gave the impression that Madeleine was dead"

So - no mention by Kate of Madeleine being buried and only Paiva's assumption that Kate was referring to a dead Madeleine.  And we have to have a whole thread devoted to impugning the McCanns once more based on these crumbs?

Yes, that is how I (and I am sure many others) also see it.

[faithlilly]

Paiva's own words:

"She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there".

"She gave the impression that Madeleine was dead"

So - no mention by Kate of Madeleine being buried and only Paiva's assumption that Kate was referring to a dead Madeleine.  And we have to have a whole thread devoted to impugning the McCanns once more based on these crumbs?

You're right Martha there is no mention by Paiva of Madeleine being buried, that was what Gerry said in his press conference.

As to Paiva's 'assumption', he was privy to the whole conversation so is in a better position than us to understand what she was telling him.