Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"

[faithlilly]

It wasn't a criminal investigation, it was a civil suit to protect a commercial venture by Amaral. Utterly reprehensible behavior by an officer of the law.

It was part of the investigation.

[faithlilly]

I see you have failed to address the issue of your myth-making and your determination to cling to it come what may.

No myth making. I simply stated, in general terms, what Paiva told the court under oath.

[Mrs. B]

Which court was that then? Not the CIVIL court where Amaral appealed against the injunction of his book, by any chance? Yes, the CIVIL court....

[faithlilly]

LOL, and yet you have told us yourself that Kate talked of her daughter's body to Paiva - is that not guesswork too?

If Paiva had, from Kate, the impression that Madeleine was dead, yes, we are talking about a body.

I'm sorry but you can second guess what Kate told Paiva until the cows come home, it won't, however, change the fact that Paiva was the only one privy to that call and he believes Kate was talking about a body.

[faithlilly]

Incorrect - you put words into Kate / Paiva's mouth.  He NEVER said that she had talked to him about a body but this is the word you have chosen to use in your OP.  Why?

If Kate had talked about a dead Madeleine, she was talking about a body.

[ferryman]

YOU have stated (guessed) that Kate McCann told Paiva she had dreamt about Madeleine's body on a hillside - please provide evidence that she used the word body.

Dangerous thing to say in Portugal.

Unlike in England, there is no immunity from the laws of libel in respect of statements made in court ...

*Amended to get the right quote

[faithlilly]

I have corrected "Faithlilly's" OP for her below:

Hilarious 

[faithlilly]

YOU have stated (guessed) that Kate McCann told Paiva she had dreamt about Madeleine's body on a hillside - please provide evidence that she used the word body.

Paiva used the word dead.

[Eleanor]

If Kate had talked about a dead Madeleine, she was talking about a body.

But Kate could have dreamed that Madeleine was alive and left on a hill.  We don't actually know, do we.

[Mrs. B]

So what?  It was his IMPRESSION or ASSUMPTION that she was referring to a dead body but Kate NEVER told him that so why have you said she did in your OP?

Yes, and we're back at dream interpretation as means to conducting police investigations.

[DCI]

I wonder if Eddie and Keela had a dream?

[Mrs. B]

I wonder if Eddie and Keela had a dream?

Mmm....yes, now try interpreting that :)

[faithlilly]

So what?  It was his IMPRESSION or ASSUMPTION that she was referring to a dead body but Kate NEVER told him that so why have you said she did in your OP?

How do you know what Kate told him ?

[registrar]

I wonder if Eddie and Keela had a dream?

Yep always involving sausages - oops, how silly of me - in their case salmon of course.

[Mrs. B]

Paiva doesn't say Kate told him Madeleine was dead. He admits that it's his OWN interpretation. If someone gives you "an impression", it doesn't mean THEY actually give you anything, but that YOU interpret it as such.

"Kate called me, she was alone as Gerry was away and she was crying," he said. "She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there.

"She gave the impression that she thought she was dead – it was a turning point for us."