Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"

[faithlilly]

Because Paiva tells us ""She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there".

Now, how do YOU know she said she dreamt about Madeleine's body?

Because Kate said something, that we are not privy to, that told him that she did not think they would find Madeleine alive. Why is that so hard for you to understand ?

[Mrs. B]

Is it really so hard for you to stick to the known facts for once, Paiva does NOT say that, he already told you what Kate said. In a court of law (albeit a civil appeal court), under oath. There is no need for you to invent additional fantasies to it.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Faithlilly
During the McCanns attempt to have Amaral's book banned Ricardo Paiva gave evidence of a telephone call made by Kate, while Gerry was absent, relating a dream she had had in which her daughters's body was on a hillside in PDL.

so that statement is incorrect, but is allowed to remain on this forum?

[icabodcrane]

If Paiva had misinterpreted, or even just misunderstood what Kate had told him  ( about her dream ) , why didn't she take the opportunity to point that out in her book ?

It was something of such significance to the Portuguese police that the direction of the investigation changed as a consequence of it  ...  and much was made of it at the hearing in Lisbon

Yet Kate did not even give it a cursory mention in her book 

[Mrs. B]

How would Kate mentioning Paiva's attempts at dream interpretation in her book have changed the course the investigation took years earlier? Bit late, don't you think? What would be the point?

[amaraltheofficeboy]

If Paiva had misinterpreted, or even just misunderstood what Kate had told him  ( about her dream ) , why didn't she take the opportunity to point that out in her book ?

It was something of such significance to the Portuguese police that the direction of the investigation changed as a consequence of it  ...  and much was made of it at the hearing in Lisbon

Yet Kate did not even give it a cursory mention in her book

maybe you answered that when you said

icabodcrane
I don't understand why it matters that Kate had a dream that Madeleine was dead ...  it was a  dream and holding it up as some sort of evidence seems pretty desperate to me

[icabodcrane]

How would Kate mentioning Paiva's attempts at dream interpretation in her book have changed the course the investigation took years earlier? Bit late, don't you think? What would be the point?

Kate's book was presented as her version of the truth,  and she had the opportunity to point out that Paiva had misrepresented what she had told him about her dream  (  if that was the case )

It was an important factor in the investigation,  and Gerry reacted strongly to it  outside the court in Lisbon

I believe it is possible that Kate did not point any error on Paiva's part,  because he had, in fact,  told the truth and she  had   given the impression she thought Madeleine was dead

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Gerry reacted strongly outside the court because it was a LIE

[Redblossom]

Kate's book was presented as her version of the truth,  and she had the opportunity to point out that Paiva had misrepresented what she had told him about her dream  (  if that was the case )

It was an important factor in the investigation,  and Gerry reacted strongly to it  outside the court in Lisbon

I believe it is possible that Kate did not point any error on Paiva's part,  because he had, in fact,  told the truth and she  had   given the impression she thought Madeleine was dead

most plausible scenario

[icabodcrane]

Gerry reacted strongly outside the court because it was a LIE

So why didn't Kate support that protestation  Gerry made outside the court in her book then  ?

[Mrs. B]

Kate's book was presented as her version of the truth,  and she had the opportunity to point out that Paiva had misrepresented what she had told him about her dream  (  if that was the case )

It was an important factor in the investigation,  and Gerry reacted strongly to it  outside the court in Lisbon

I believe it is possible that Kate did not point any error on Paiva's part,  because he had, in fact,  told the truth and she  had   given the impression she thought Madeleine was dead

And I believe that it's more probable that Kate McCann doesn't give a monkey's about what Paiva thought or not as the AG had already said his piece. That's the IMPRESSION I get, but then, I give as much relevance to dream interpretation as I do to reversed speech analysis.

ETA And btw, one fact remains, Paiva did NOT say that Kate McCann talked about a "body" - so I guess we know who's been caught out lying again.

[ferryman]

It was an important factor in the investigation,

Why is a dream important in any criminal investigation?

Indeed, why would it matter if Kate did dream about Madeleine being murdered?

I mean, I don't have any statistics, but I would be willing to lay a sizeable bet that absolutely anyone in Kate's position might (potentially) have all sorts of weird and (not necessarily very wonderful) dreams of all sorts, none of the slightest relevance to competent investigators of crime.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

So why didn't Kate support that protestation  Gerry made outside the court in her book then  ?

why - it only seems important to a very few unimportant people on here.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

don't forget what you said

icabodcrane
I don't understand why it matters that Kate had a dream that Madeleine was dead ...  it was a  dream and holding it up as some sort of evidence seems pretty desperate to me

[Redblossom]

So why didn't Kate support that protestation  Gerry made outside the court in her book then  ?

Because it was true imo, safest conclusion to make, gerry going off like a rooster on speed only proves they were defensive about something they didnt like, indeed, why couldnt kate speak for herself! She did plenty a time over the three days, and yes, why was a mere dream important enough  for gerry to go to such lengths