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Redblossom

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Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« on: June 05, 2013, 07:16:43 PM »
well isn't that a lie, he told Anna.

I know he wasn't sleeping, he was in a bar with an old friend.

So what?


ANNOUNCEMENT OF A DISAPPEARANCE: THE FIRST SEVENTY-TWO HOURS
On this evening, May 3rd 2007, I decide to dine at the Carvi Brasserie, in the centre of Portimão, before going home. I have been living for a year in this town, where I lead the Department of Criminal Investigation of the police judiciaire. In 1982, when I was 23 and I had just taken up this career, I had already gone there. There, I had made the acquaintance of someone who was to become my friend, Manuel João. Former local official and sporty, a charismatic person. He always lent a hand to members of the police judiciaire who went to the town for the purposes of an investigation. As an elected local official, he originated the creation of a police judiciaire department in Portimão. Thus, that evening, while savouring fruits de mer, we discuss the problems of Portuguese society.

It is midnight when I receive the news about the disappearance of a little four-year-old English girl. The police officer on call was informed about it by the National Guard of The Republic (GNR) At the time of her disappearance, the little girl was supposed to have been sleeping in an apartment while her parents were dining a hundred metres away. An inspector is sent to the scene immediately to establish the initial facts. A forensic expert assigned to security of the premises will join him. All precautions are taken to preserve possible clues and elements of evidence. I demand to be informed very regularly and, before going home, I call on the police on duty to check that all urgent measures are underway. The head of the Guard has already alerted the police authorities at Faro airport and the control post set up on the Guadiana* bridge.

(*The river on the frontier between Portugal and Spain.)

THE REPORTS LEAVE A LOT TO BE DESIRED

The examination of the premises by the investigator and the representative of the forensic police just after the announcement of the disappearance turns out to be quite unproductive. A concise report, where their observations are written up, is accompanied by numerous photographs taken inside and outside apartment 5A - which don't give an account of, according to us, everything they could have observed. This error is explained by the absence of procedures in case of a child's disappearance, notably concerning the actions to be taken when examining the scene.

Lots of people were already in place; however, nobody appeared in the photos. We don't know, for example, how they were dressed. Such observations can turn out to be important later on. The report mentions that the twins were asleep in their bed, but there is no proof to confirm it; on the contrary, in the photographs, you can see empty cots, where only the mattresses remain - the sheets and blankets having been removed. Why have their beds been stripped? If the sheets had not been removed, traces of their presence could have been found there.

That evening, on arriving home, I see Inès, my younger daughter, who is sleeping close to my wife, Sofia. In silence, in the dim light of the bedroom, I sit on the edge of the bed. Outside, far from her mother's warmth, a child of the same age is lost. Sofia wakes up and asks me what is happening. I tell her about Madeleine's disappearance and instinctively, she holds our daughter tightly in her arms and makes room for me.

I make lots of phone calls and send a text message to the director of the Faro Department of Criminal Investigation (DIC): child, English, aged 4, disappeared from a Praia da Luz hotel. It's sufficient. Reading the message, he will understand the gravity of the situation. Three years before, we had dealt with a similar case, a few kilometres from Praia da Luz. We had not been informed at the time of that disappearance, and we are convinced that if the investigation could have been started immediately we would have been able to discover some physical evidence. The police response is fundamental. The first 72 hours are essential.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2013, 08:36:09 PM by Redblossom »

Offline John

Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 10:56:33 PM »
I have created this new topic with a post made by Redblossom earlier.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 11:34:58 PM »
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icabodcrane

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 11:45:56 PM »
I find the intimated contempt that Amaral was  'in a bar'  when Madeleine went missing to be quite astonishing

...  Why should he not have been  ?

On the other hand, the fact that her parents  were  'in a bar'  when Madeleine went missing .....

Offline sadie

Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 11:50:58 PM »
You are wrong Icabod.

The Mccanns were NOT in a bar, tbey we in an outside restaurant

Quite different

icabodcrane

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 11:58:16 PM »
You are wrong Icabod.

The Mccanns were NOT in a bar, tbey we in an outside restaurant

Quite different

You get my point though sadie  ?

Critisising Amaral for being out socialising when Madeleine went missing is a nonsense in itself ....  but doing so when the little girl's own parents were out socialising themselves is breathtaking chutzpah !

AnneGuedes

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 12:07:34 AM »
chutzpah !
Not familiar with that yiddish word, I googled and found this :
Rosten defined the term as "that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan."
Just the kind of humour I love.

registrar

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 12:32:22 AM »
Not familiar with that yiddish word, I googled and found this :
Rosten defined the term as "that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan."
Just the kind of humour I love.

You find the described scenario above - a matter of humour?

I wonder - especially on a board with this subject matter, but I suppose in Portugal they find putting up a mannequin with a child's sun hat and a painted on coloboma - yards from the church -on the first anniversary of her disappearance - a laughing matter too.

But if these things cheer you up - so be it.

Quite explains a certain mindset. 

But each to their own I suppose - and who am I to spoil your fun?
« Last Edit: June 06, 2013, 12:37:19 AM by registrar »

Offline sadie

Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 01:04:21 AM »
You get my point though sadie  ?

Critisising Amaral for being out socialising when Madeleine went missing is a nonsense in itself ....  but doing so when the little girl's own parents were out socialising themselves is breathtaking chutzpah !
Amaral drank too much.  He was known for it.  None of the Tapas 9 did as far as we are aware.  The tapas 9 were eating their dinner, yep there was a social element undoubtedly, but they were on holiday

Amaral was working.  It is known that Amaral drank heavily and gorged himself.

Offline Benice

Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2013, 01:29:06 AM »
Amaral drank too much.  He was known for it.  None of the Tapas 9 did as far as we are aware.  The tapas 9 were eating their dinner, yep there was a social element undoubtedly, but they were on holiday

Amaral was working.  It is known that Amaral drank heavily and gorged himself.

The McCanns and their friends didn't sit down until 9.00p.m and they left at just after 10.00.
The drinks came as part of the meal.   Not much time to drink too much IMO whilst you're eating a 2/3 course meal and some are taking time out to go and check on the children.


 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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icabodcrane

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2013, 01:33:48 AM »
Amaral drank too much.  He was known for it.  None of the Tapas 9 did as far as we are aware.  The tapas 9 were eating their dinner, yep there was a social element undoubtedly, but they were on holiday

Amaral was working.  It is known that Amaral drank heavily and gorged himself.

Madeleine's safety that night was not Amaral's responsibility  ....  it was her mum and dad's

Offline Chinagirl

Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2013, 02:32:30 AM »
Amaral can't be criticised for being out eating and drinking the night Madeleine was abducted.  Presumably he was off-duty and as entitled as anyone to spend an evening socialising.

The criticism arises for his actions (or rather, non-actions) after he got the message about a child having gone missing.  He went home rather than to the scene of the event.  Nor did he get himself down there the next day; in fact, he was so hands-off that he never even met with either of the distraught parents throughout the entire time he was involved in the investigation.

Extraordinary behaviour for a senior police officer in charge of the most important investigation of his career.
 
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icabodcrane

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2013, 02:39:53 AM »
Amaral can't be criticised for being out eating and drinking the night Madeleine was abducted.  Presumably he was off-duty and as entitled as anyone to spend an evening socialising.

The criticism arises for his actions (or rather, non-actions) after he got the message about a child having gone missing.  He went home rather than to the scene of the event.  Nor did he get himself down there the next day; in fact, he was so hands-off that he never even met with either of the distraught parents throughout the entire time he was involved in the investigation.

Extraordinary behaviour for a senior police officer in charge of the most important investigation of his career.

That  is fair comment Chinagirl  ...  I also find it astonishing that Amaral was so 'distant'  in such a high profile case as to never even meet the people involved 

Offline Benice

Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 08:43:56 AM »
That  is fair comment Chinagirl  ...  I also find it astonishing that Amaral was so 'distant'  in such a high profile case as to never even meet the people involved

I agree Icab.  An incomprehensible decision and one which he has never properly explained.   In fact he went out of his way in his book to hide the fact IMO.    No-one reading it (who didn't already know), would have a clue that he never met or spoke to the McCanns during the whole time he was on this case - in fact they would have gained the opposite impression.

Maybe if he had met them and talked to them from the very beginning he would have developed a different theory to the one he so quickly decided upon.

I'm not absolutely certain, but I don't think he met anyone else from the group either. 












The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

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Re: Where was Amaral when the news broke?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 09:46:28 AM »
Yes, that would actually be worthy of a thread on its own, who DID Amaral actually interview in person? We know he interviewed Murat & what Murat thought about the interview.

ROBERT MURAT: He basically told me it was a game of two halves and as the night before I hadn’t confessed, erm, then, he would get me on the second half and he just kind of turned his back on me. He didn’t… He just… It seemed he didn’t care about the truth. That was the, thats how I felt.

http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/transcript-of-panorama-madeleine-mccann/