How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?

[Eleanor]

I would  sincerely hope that they were not.

You don't seriously believe that Scotland Yard and The PJ are actually telling what they are doing, do you?

And besides, the current suspect was obviously up to no good, and could well have been involved with others.  He obviously knew how to get into appartments so he had to be looked into.
It is not the fault of Scotland Yard if The PJ is leaking like a sieve.  Again.

[jassi]

You don't seriously believe that Scotland Yard and The PJ are actually telling what they are doing, do you?

And besides, the current suspect was obviously up to no good, and could well have been involved with others.  He obviously knew how to get into appartments so he had to be looked into.
It is not the fault of Scotland Yard if The PJ is leaking like a sieve.  Again.

That's what I said - I hoped they were not telling us what all that  they were doing.

[Benita]

That's what I said - I hoped they were not telling us what all that  they were doing.

think about it jassi  >@@(*&)...step outside the box for moment ...re tannerman and smithman  ...

[jassi]

think about it jassi  >@@(*&)...step outside the box for moment ...re tannerman and smithman  ...

Well, Tannerman has been dismissed from the frame and Smithman remains an enigma for the time being.


I wait to see where the much vaunted mobile phone signals lead them.

[Benita]

Well, Tannerman has been dismissed from the frame and Smithman remains an enigma for the time being.


I wait to see where the much vaunted mobile phone signals lead them.

no jassi ..your not thinking about it ....has tannerman been dismissed or is that just what they are telling us ....?  >@@(*&)

[Eleanor]

That's what I said - I hoped they were not telling us what all that  they were doing.

My apologies.  I obviously misunderstood your post.  I thought you were worried about the reputation of the current suspect.

[colombosstogey]

What would be the point of having more than one person involved in carrying. It only seems to complicate the issue without adding any benefit.

I agree with you. Keep it simple.

Everyone talks about men being seen carrying children etc, where were all the women that night lol.

Anything to do with kids I dealt with even carrying child from a creche. Although I suppose perhaps women didnt feel safe there, which then doesnt make sense as didnt the McCanns say they FELT safe there....

Its a small village in Portugal, even the people living there said they were looking for a child who had wondered off, not a child who had been abducted because it was a child friendly place to live.

So where were all the other women holiday makers?

Didnt Jez Wilkins wife say that on the tennis court there were at least 10 little blonde girls running around you couldnt tell who was who, so where were all the parents belonging to these children?

It also seems the creche was busy too, so there must have been quite a few adults about.

Just seems odd the only people about were the Tapas 7....

I personally do not believe an abductor would be seen taking away the child if we are to believe the family were targeted etc....

They would simply know by watching that the window of opportunity to take a child was ZERO because of all the twoing and froing on the 3rd, however, i would have thought any other night when the chidlren were left longer would have been more opportunistic very strange.

I dont think an abduction was impossible, nor the child wondering off and being picked up BUT in the area the child was I find it hard to believe that someone would be so bold and clever enough to do it without leaving any trace whatsover.

And usually sadly chidlren snatched in this way are sexually abused and killed and dumped soon afterwards....horrible thought but truth.

I am inclined to dismiss both sightings anyway if they are believing it is tractor man, then the sightings can be discounted....

Although I would have thought a 6ft 2ins tall and handsome black guy would have been noticed hanging around apartments people are always more suspicious of darker coloured people then white sorry to say so he would have been noticed surely....

The front door.  This is bugging me a bit.

I read that it was kept locked so would they keep the key in the lock? If this was the case no one could get in as the spare or copied key would not work...if someone tried to get in from the front...

I have a front door which is kept locked during the day, because otherwise anyone can just walk in, and I keep my key on a hook above incase of fire, and so my husband if he is in late can use his own key IF I leave my key in the lock he cant use his the other side.

I doubt they really used the front door to be honest.

My mums house is similar to the apartment. It has a back entrance with a large patio door, and the front door you have to go all around to get to it which is a phaff.

So EVERYONE goes through the back and the patio door when visiting her. The only time she opens the front door to be honest is if there is a delivery or when she attends her garden.

Otherwise the door is kept locked and the key is in it.

Just odd thoughts and scenarios. Sorry i am waffling on a bit lol, just find that NOTHING new has happened, and its all just old stuff being rehashed by the police. We are really no further forward...

[Eleanor]

I don't think that Tannerman has been dismissed.  But that's just me.  I had already worked out what I thought happened.  But it is always possible to be wrong.

[jassi]

no jassi ..your not thinking about it ....has tannerman been dismissed or is that just what they are telling us ....?  >@@(*&)

If you dismiss some of what the police say, then you have to dismiss everything - you cannot be selective

[Benita]

The front door.  This is bugging me a bit.

I read that it was kept locked so would they keep the key in the lock? If this was the case no one could get in as the spare or copied key would not work...if someone tried to get in from the front...

I have a front door which is kept locked during the day, because otherwise anyone can just walk in, and I keep my key on a hook above incase of fire, and so my husband if he is in late can use his own key IF I leave my key in the lock he cant use his the other side.
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you don't leave the key in on the inside of a yale lock it locks automatic ...only opens with key from outside  ...was it a yale lock ...?

[Eleanor]

It is possible to open a locked door from outside even if a key is on the inside, although not with all doors.
But a Cleaner seems to have managed it on that appartment door according to the statement of one of the clients who stayed in 5A.

[faithlilly]

I dunno. If they had enough clothes for a week and suddenly they find themselves there for longer, plus I imagine that keeping on top of the washing wasn't high on there list of priorities.

I could imagine myself doing this. That's usually how I try to work with this case.

I'm sure there's a witness statement that states the McCann's clothes were taken to the laundry for them soon after the disappearance.

ETA 'It was through statements from several officials of the complex, linked to the laundry service, that the inspectors were to learn that the McCann had had some of the children's clothes washed, Madeleine's and also Sean's and Amelie's.
"That would never have happened without the intervention of Mark Warner and especially the ambassador. They took advantage of the space we left for them, which was an error on our part," Gonçalo Amaral admits.

"Last Saturday (5/05/2007) I received a bag of clothes brought by Mark Warner officials, which were expressly stated as belonging to Madeleine's family - there were adults' clothes (male and female) and children's (...)," one of the laundry supervisors stated.
If the laundry supervisor only admits to remembering about a pink skirt belonging to Madeleine, she is formally saying that there were indeed other of the little British girl's clothes, which a few work colleagues have elsewhere confirmed to the police.'

[Eleanor]

If you dismiss some of what the police say, then you have to dismiss everything - you cannot be selective

This is just not true.  And Scotland Yard did not state categorically that they had dismissed Jane Tanners sighting.

The Police simply say what it suits them to say.  This is perfectly normal.

[jassi]

This is just not true.  And Scotland Yard did not state categorically that they had dismissed Jane Tanners sighting.

The Police simply say what it suits them to say.  This is perfectly normal.

What is untrue about what I wrote?

[Benita]

I believe the sy/pj are still looking for tannerman  ... they just stuck a red herron in the spoke ..