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Offline Benice

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2013, 08:31:30 PM »
So do most people believe Tanner actually saw someone ?

I definitely do Faithlilly.  JT had no reason whatsoever to lie, she was not a particular friend of the McCanns, and having read her rogatory statement and seen her video interviews she seems to be a perfectly normal, intelligent, decent sort of person to me.     I do not believe for a minute that she would agree to put herself and her children's lives at such horrendous risk by agreeing to become an Accessory to the death/disposal of someone else's child.    That makes no sense. IMO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2013, 08:37:07 PM »
There is some uncertainty about Jane's sighting  ...  Gerry thinks she wasn't even able to accurately recall which side of the street he and Jez were standing on, for instance,  which in itself casts doubt on her powers of  her recollection generally It would have made sense if the McCanns had considered whether or not Jane  may  have been mistaken,  and promoted,  at least as being equally possible,  the theory that the abduction might have occured later in the night   (  just before 10pm )  as the Smith familiy sighting would have, logically, suggested

Wasn't it Gerry's recollection of where they stood which differed from JT's and Jez Wilkins?


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2013, 08:47:41 PM »

And both happened to be carring a little girl, of the same age,


No, Benice, JT saw no little girl, only feet, a poor indication for age and sex.

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2013, 08:51:17 PM »
Only T (Peter Smith's wife's son) noticed bare feet.

Peter Smiths son

Adds further that his son TA*** was questioned in Ireland and said that the individual was dressed in a long-sleeved coat/jacket, black in colour, and that the child was barefoot.
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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2013, 08:56:25 PM »


Unless that WAS Madeleine and the Mccanns lied about what she was wearing that COLD night once Gerry, if he was the carrier, knew he had been spotted by them? Possible? Or too conspiratorial?
They simple could have swapped pyjamas to fit Jane's sighting which was so important for them as being the one and only possible evidence.
It was cold, all these people had jackets or fleece, nobody would carry a half naked child unless in an emergency.

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2013, 08:59:10 PM »
There is some uncertainty about Jane's sighting  ...   Gerry thinks she wasn't even able to accurately recall which side of the street he and Jez were standing on, for instance,  which in itself casts doubt on her powers of  her recollection generally

It would have made sense if the McCanns had considered whether or not Jane  may  have been mistaken,  and promoted,  at least as being equally possible,  the theory that the abduction might have occured later in the night   (  just before 10pm )  as the Smith familiy sighting would have, logically, suggested
As JW and JT mentioned the same side of the street, GMC could doubt Jane, we can't.

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2013, 08:59:59 PM »
They simple could have swapped pyjamas to fit Jane's sighting which was so important for them as being the one and only possible evidence.
It was cold, all these people had jackets or fleece, nobody would carry a half naked child unless in an emergency.
Yes, for some  reason HER sighting HAS  to be the one, why?


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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2013, 09:01:22 PM »
Peter Smiths son

Adds further that his son TA*** was questioned in Ireland and said that the individual was dressed in a long-sleeved coat/jacket, black in colour, and that the child was barefoot.
No, TA, a teenager, is Peter Smith's step son.

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2013, 09:01:39 PM »
Wasn't it Gerry's recollection of where they stood which differed from JT's and Jez Wilkins?

Yes which makes gerry wrong statistically

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2013, 09:03:03 PM »
No, TA, a teenager, is Peter Smith's step son.

Well I didn't write the statements Anne, the PJ did  @)(++(*
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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2013, 09:08:07 PM »
Yes, for some  reason HER sighting HAS  to be the one, why?
Has to be the one ? Or had to be the one and remained the one for 2 years ?

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2013, 09:28:20 PM »
I don't believe that either sighting was the abductor, and I don't believe he two sightings were the same person.

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2013, 09:40:22 PM »
I don't believe that either sighting was the abductor, and I don't believe he two sightings were the same person.

You could well be right there.
I haven't noticed anything in the files about the CCTV, that Amaral said could have captured the abductor, when he spoke to the Express. Nor is there any mention of the villa he said was searched.
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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2013, 09:49:30 PM »
You could well be right there.
I haven't noticed anything in the files about the CCTV, that Amaral said could have captured the abductor, when he spoke to the Express. Nor is there any mention of the villa he said was searched.

two people saw two different people carrying a child at night in a holiday resort.

the only connection is what....??????

the time is different

the location is different


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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2013, 09:53:47 PM »
two people saw two different people carrying a child at night in a holiday resort.

the only connection is what....??????

the time is different

the location is different

Yes, only connected by the Smiths statement, because of the way Gerry held his son.
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