How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?

[Benice]

so what was the 60% she could corroborate?

I don't know - I haven't seen the sketches which JT was shown.  But it is clear by the reference to 'sketches' that she not simply shown one man's face, which it is being claimed she agreed was 80 per cent like the man she saw.

[Redblossom]

Read my link at 6.04pm page back or so

[Redblossom]

This is a picture of Raymond Hewlett, the convicted paedophile taken ages ago as a couple years ago he looked more like davos out of dr who without his dalek machine on and on his deathbed with cancer and in a wheelchair  with about 20 hairs on his head,....and next to it is a sketch by mrs cooper curtesy of the police sketch artist commissioned by team mccan/brian kennedy/metodo 3, not sure, is it me or does this look contrived, to anyone or is it just me,did gail cooper describe him as walking along withhands in pockets, thought she just shut the door on him when he came begging for donations???
http://raymondhewlett.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/hewlett-mccann-abductor-sketch.html

Was someone planning a find  a patsy excercise?

http://raymondhewlett.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/recent-raymond-hewlett-images.html

how on earth they could connect tanners or the smiths sighting or anyone elses with this is beyond logic


Thing is also, helwett has been compared to coopers moustachey man, when in fact cooper published pictures courtesy of the news of the world showing how her friend snapped him  on the beach a few hours before he came to her house, only unfortunately the man they snapped had short hair was smart dressed and had no big moustache
 8-)(--)

How does one grow a moustache and hair in two hours???? Too many liars in this case.......

[Benice]

Read my link at 6.04pm page back or so

I have.

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Melissa Little, Qualified Police Sketch Artist..... met with JT and Gail Cooper to produce the sketches from their recollections of the sightings of the man.  These meetings were held on separate occasions.

After spending many hours with both witnesses ''there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's.
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Its clear from that -  that ML saw JT and GC separately and it is HER opinion after spending many hours with both women that .....'there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's''.   IMO it would be those similarities to which JT refers.     However whereas GC could describe the whole of the man including his face i.e. 100 percent, JT could only comment on 80 percent of GC's description because she hadn't seen his face. 

To claim that during the many hours spent with both JT and GC they only discussed and produced one picture of a man's face is urealistic.   IMO The man's face that is shown is the one they decided to print from GC's description, along with the full length piccie of the man from JT's description - which doesn't show a face at all.

Well that's the way I see it anyway.


 




 

[Redblossom]

I have.

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Melissa Little, Qualified Police Sketch Artist..... met with JT and Gail Cooper to produce the sketches from their recollections of the sightings of the man.  These meetings were held on separate occasions.

After spending many hours with both witnesses ''there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's.
Unquote

Its clear from that -  that ML saw JT and GC separately and it is HER opinion after spending many hours with both women that .....'there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's''.   IMO it would be those similarities to which JT refers.     However whereas GC could describe the whole of the man including his face i.e. 100 percent, JT could only comment on 80 percent of GC's description because she hadn't seen his face. 

To claim that during the many hours spent with both JT and GC they only discussed and produced one picture of a man's face is urealistic.   IMO The man's face that is shown is the one they decided to print from GC's description, along with the full length piccie of the man from JT's description - which doesn't show a face at all.

Well that's the way I see it anyway.


 




 

Yes must be no worries end of except why did the police artist take licence to sketch a pink top of the girl carried when tanner said all she saw was a pair of legs!

Oh and btw lace if you are still reading, tanner did not mention a girl with blonde hair, so no, that was NOT a similarity with the Smith sighting

[icabodcrane]

I have.

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Melissa Little, Qualified Police Sketch Artist..... met with JT and Gail Cooper to produce the sketches from their recollections of the sightings of the man.  These meetings were held on separate occasions.

After spending many hours with both witnesses ''there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's.
Unquote

Its clear from that -  that ML saw JT and GC separately and it is HER opinion after spending many hours with both women that .....'there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's''.   IMO it would be those similarities to which JT refers.     However whereas GC could describe the whole of the man including his face i.e. 100 percent, JT could only comment on 80 percent of GC's description because she hadn't seen his face. 

To claim that during the many hours spent with both JT and GC they only discussed and produced one picture of a man's face is urealistic.   IMO The man's face that is shown is the one they decided to print from GC's description, along with the full length piccie of the man from JT's description - which doesn't show a face at all.

Well that's the way I see it anyway.


 




 

Do you  see  'many similarities'  in the two men Benice  ?  (  I can't see any at all myself other than they appear to have a similar build  )

I really don't see how Jane Tanner can say  anyone  is, or even  could  be the man she saw that night ...  if she was shown a thousand sketches she wouldn't be able to affirm whether any were the man she saw,  because she didn't  'see'  his face

[Benice]

Do you  see  'many similarities'  in the two men Benice  ?  (  I can't see any at all myself other than they appear to have a similar build  )

I really don't see how Jane Tanner can say  anyone  is, or even  could  be the man she saw that night ...  if she was shown a thousand sketches she wouldn't be able to affirm whether any were the man she saw,  because she didn't  'see'  his face

Well it would be possible for JT to say ''that is definitely NOT  the man I saw'', if Gail's description was for instance of a little fat bald man with a long grey beard.   But from the description she saw it could have been the man IHO.

The descriptions were given to the Artist separately and it was she who noticed the similarities.

[Redblossom]

Well it would be possible for JT to say ''that is definitely NOT  the man I saw'', if Gail's description was for instance of a little fat bald man with a long grey beard.   But from the description she saw it could have been the man IHO.

The descriptions were given to the Artist separately and it was she who noticed the similarities.

Could  have been to 80 per cent sure it was is so different its bloody  shocking you are defending this utter bloody  nonsense

Had enough of the apologisers here for another day zzzz

[AnneGuedes]

If you didn't "see" a face but saw little flowers on pants or noticed light shoe heels, this is called selective seeing.
Jane T was obviously conscious of this and of the discredit it implied, so she felt like agreeing with whatever face they were showing her. Poor Jane.

[Benice]

Could  have been to 80 per cent sure it was is so different its bloody  shocking you are defending this utter bloody  nonsense

Had enough of the apologisers here for another day zzzz

What happened to.... ''its called freedom of thought, thank god that is still allowed''... ?
Or is that only allowed for 'sceptics'.

[Redblossom]

What happened to.... ''its called freedom of thought, thank god that is still allowed''... ?
Or is that only allowed for 'sceptics'.

Freedom of thought has zilch to so with physical vision , zzzzzz

[Redblossom]

If you didn't "see" a face but saw little flowers on pants or noticed light shoe heels, this is called selective seeing.
Jane T was obviously conscious of this and of the discredit it implied, so she felt like agreeing with whatever face they were showing her. Poor Jane.

 Tanner was probably leant on imo at some stage or just told to shut up, most normal people would do with nefarious people around oh well, poor maddie
andnasty little piggy s..mbags that made hee do so, oooh wonder who

[AnneGuedes]

What happened to.... ''its called freedom of thought, thank god that is still allowed''... ?
Or is that only allowed for 'sceptics'.

Better be a sceptic, Benice, it's no betrayal of no one, it's just the only possible position for armchair detectives.

[Mo Stache]

I have.

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Melissa Little, Qualified Police Sketch Artist..... met with JT and Gail Cooper to produce the sketches from their recollections of the sightings of the man.  These meetings were held on separate occasions.

After spending many hours with both witnesses ''there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's.Unquote

Its clear from that -  that ML saw JT and GC separately and it is HER opinion after spending many hours with both women that .....'there are many similarities between Jane Tanner's man and Gail's''.   IMO it would be those similarities to which JT refers.     However whereas GC could describe the whole of the man including his face i.e. 100 percent, JT could only comment on 80 percent of GC's description because she hadn't seen his face. 

To claim that during the many hours spent with both JT and GC they only discussed and produced one picture of a man's face is urealistic.   IMO The man's face that is shown is the one they decided to print from GC's description, along with the full length piccie of the man from JT's description - which doesn't show a face at all.

Well that's the way I see it anyway.


 




 

As a qualified Police Sketch Artist, I am sure, she was in the best position to identify similarities.

[Benice]

Better be a sceptic, Benice, it's no betrayal of no one, it's just the only possible position for armchair detectives.

If I'd ever found anything to be sceptical about Anne then I would be.  So far that hasn't happened.