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AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #210 on: June 09, 2013, 10:11:29 PM »
If I'd ever found anything to be sceptical about Anne then I would be.  So far that hasn't happened.
It's ok, Benice, you're a believer, I think it's an important, not very easy, function.

Redblossom

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #211 on: June 09, 2013, 10:14:11 PM »
As a qualified Police Sketch Artist, I am sure, she was in the best position to identify similarities.

As a sketch artist she should NOT have had LICENCE to put into her sketch what Tanner DIDNT see, ie the childs top

Offline Mo Stache

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #212 on: June 09, 2013, 10:18:55 PM »
As a sketch artist she sbould NOT have had LICENCE to put into her sketch what Tanner DIDNT see, ie the childs top
What is sbould? As a professional police sketch artist she had the licence to sketch within her scope of practice.

Redblossom

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #213 on: June 09, 2013, 10:24:17 PM »
What is sbould? As a professional police sketch artist she had the licence to sketch within her scope of practice.

Its a spelling mistake OBVIOUSLY as WELL YOU know. and NO, a sketch artists sketches what witnesses see, not what they DIDNT!!! What a stupid post, it is NOT in their remit to add bits cos theywant to, see what a joke

Offline Mo Stache

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #214 on: June 09, 2013, 10:30:08 PM »
Its a spelling mistake OBVIOUSLY as WELL YOU know. and NO, a sketch artists sketches what witnesses see, not what they DIDNT!!! What a stupid post, it is NOT in their remit to add bits cos theywant to, see what a joke
No need to shout.
If a sketch artist is not told either by a witness or the parents, what the child was last wearing, what is the artist suppose to sketch the child in? Leave her naked with a message, witness did not see what she had on as a top. Or don't you think the artist would have been told what the child went to bed in, was last seen in, was wearing when she was taken so that she can sketch as accurate a representation as possible?
 

Offline Mrs. B

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #215 on: June 09, 2013, 10:39:36 PM »
No need to shout.
If a sketch artist is not told either by a witness or the parents, what the child was last wearing, what is the artist suppose to sketch the child in? Leave her naked with a message, witness did not see what she had on as a top. Or don't you think the artist would have been told what the child went to bed in, was last seen in, was wearing when she was taken so that she can sketch as accurate a representation as possible?

Of course she would, who do people think police artists do sketches FOR in the first place? It's not so they can keep pretty pictures on their files, or hang them up in their offices, it's for the benefit of the PUBLIC, in order to trigger memories of potential witnesses.

Offline faithlilly

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #216 on: June 09, 2013, 10:40:49 PM »
They are obviously not anomalies in the eyes of the UK police, only in the eyes of some armchair sleuths - who have an agenda quite different to that of SY.
IMHO

SY would not be able to request a reconstruction so the point is academic.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #217 on: June 09, 2013, 10:44:06 PM »
SY would not be able to request a reconstruction so the point is academic.
Totally (a pity).

Redblossom

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #218 on: June 09, 2013, 10:45:19 PM »
No need to shout.
If a sketch artist is not told either by a witness or the parents, what the child was last wearing, what is the artist suppose to sketch the child in? Leave her naked with a message, witness did not see what she had on as a top. Or don't you think the artist would have been told what the child went to bed in, was last seen in, was wearing when she was taken so that she can sketch as accurate a representation as possible?
Sketch artist is to sketch what a WITNESS saw not what the parents say what pyjamas they put their kid into bed with

The sketch was NOT of maddie in bed last seen byher parents but of Maddie SEEN being whisked  away by a stranger by Jane Tanner in the street wearing her pjs,sheesh gone
« Last Edit: June 09, 2013, 10:53:34 PM by Redblossom »

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #219 on: June 09, 2013, 10:49:12 PM »
I observe that photographs of toddler Madeleine are still published in newspapers. In 2007 it was counterproductive (unless the objective was mainly to disturb the public), but now it's frankly ludicrous.

Offline Mo Stache

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #220 on: June 09, 2013, 10:50:29 PM »
Sketch artist is to sketch what a WITNESS saw not what the parents say what they pyjamas they put their kid into bed with
Think about what you just posted Redblossom.

Hypothetically speaking - When (God forbid) your child goes missing. You are the last person to have seen her/him and you will be asked by the police for the description of the clothing the child was in when you last saw him/her. That would go into the description of the sketch. You would be the last witness to have witnesses what the child was wearing.


Offline faithlilly

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #221 on: June 09, 2013, 10:51:29 PM »
No need to shout.
If a sketch artist is not told either by a witness or the parents, what the child was last wearing, what is the artist suppose to sketch the child in? Leave her naked with a message, witness did not see what she had on as a top. Or don't you think the artist would have been told what the child went to bed in, was last seen in, was wearing when she was taken so that she can sketch as accurate a representation as possible?

If the purpose of the sketch was to identify if it was the missing child being carried then the artist should not add anything that is not escribed to her. Besides if the child was not carried at an angle where Tanner could see her top, why is the children being drawn in a way that you can ? Rather misleading to say the least.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2013, 10:53:25 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #222 on: June 09, 2013, 10:52:42 PM »
LOL No, police sketch artists can use the impressions of several witnesses to draw a sketch of a potential suspects for example, what matters is to draw a picture representing an impression that is as close to reality as possible. All information is taken into account when doing this. It's for the benefit of the PUBLIC, not police.

Offline Mo Stache

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #223 on: June 09, 2013, 10:53:43 PM »
I observe that photographs of toddler Madeleine are still published in newspapers. In 2007 it was counterproductive (unless the objective was mainly to disturb the public), but now it's frankly ludicrous.
It could serve to trigger the memory of someone who saw her in 2007. So in my opinion not ludicrous at all.

Offline faithlilly

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #224 on: June 09, 2013, 10:55:41 PM »
LOL No, police sketch artists can use the impressions of several witnesses to draw a sketch of a potential suspects for example, what matters is to draw a picture representing an impression that is as close to reality as possible. All information is taken into account when doing this. It's for the benefit of the PUBLIC, not police.

But if the actual top was later found to be totally different from the one sketched that would be very misleading to the public, I'm sure you'll agree, and counterproductive.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?