How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?

[sadie]

Of course it was a moving picture and different photos may show slight differences, but Kate is not holding the rail here.

Both Parents show concentration as they descend and both parents have one hand that could grab the rail if necessary

Perfect carrying technique, common to most caring parents.




What a nonsense of Amaral to make a "meal" out of that.

I wonder if Smith contacted Amaral just to tell him that the method that Gerry was holding s*** in this picture is the same as the method that ?bundleman was holding Madeleine?  Only pointing out how ?bundleman was carrying Madeleine ... nothing more.

And Amaral blew it up into an identification of Gerry?

[faithlilly]

Of course it was a moving picture and different photos may show slight differences, but Kate is not holding the rail here.

Both Parents show concentration as they descend and both parents have one hand that could grab the rail if necessary

Perect carrying technique, common to most caring parents.




What a nonsense of Amaral to make a "meal" out of that.

I wonder if Smith contacted Amaral just to tell him that the method that Gerry was holding s*** in this picture is the same as the method that ?bundleman was holding Madeleine?  Only pointing out how ?bundleman was carrying Madeleine ... nothing more.

And Amaral blew it up into an identification of Gerry?

If you think that sadie then you really do need to re-visit the files before your 'theories' get any more ridiculous.

[Mrs. B]

No, I don't think that was the case. Mr. Smith did contact Irish authorities after he saw that news clip on the TV & he did say that the person he saw COULD have been Gerry McCann. Amaral did exaggerate but it wasn't actually Amaral who invented the story.

[sadie]

No, I don't think that was the case. Mr. Smith did contact Irish authorities after he saw that news clip on the TV & he did say that the person he saw COULD have been Gerry McCann. Amaral did exaggerate but it wasn't actually Amaral who invented the story.

I am happy to accept that.

[AnneGuedes]

I said SLEEPING child. Apart from that, see any big differences "carrying" wise here?

There's one picture where Mrs McCann holds the bannister (I would have done that).

[AnneGuedes]

No, I don't think that was the case. Mr. Smith did contact Irish authorities after he saw that news clip on the TV & he did say that the person he saw COULD have been Gerry McCann. Amaral did exaggerate but it wasn't actually Amaral who invented the story.

Do you suggest somebody else invented it ?
Or do you mean "but Amaral actually didn't invent the story" ?

[Mrs. B]

No, I was answering replying to Sadie's comment, if you read above, I'm sure you'll understand.

[AnneGuedes]

Mrs. B
Amaral did exaggerate but it wasn't actually Amaral who invented the story.
AnneGuedes
Do you suggest somebody else invented it ?
Or do you mean "but Amaral actually didn't invent the story" ?
Mrs.B
No, I was answering replying to Sadie's comment, if you read above, I'm sure you'll understand.

I know you were replying to Sadie. My doubt was about a syntaxic point :
As you wrote it I understand Amaral didn't invent the story but somebody else did.
Is it what you meant ? And if so, who ?

[Mrs. B]

No, I meant exactly what I said, Amaral did not invent the story. End of.

[AnneGuedes]

Fine, at least a fact and not Amaral's inventiveness.

[Mrs. B]

Yes, as I said.....

[AnneGuedes]

Yes, as I said.....

Your corrected but as you first wrote "it wasn't actually Amaral who invented the story", I wondered.

[Redblossom]

Quite correct Anne, no one invented anything here.....unless anyne wants to assert that witness statements are *inventions*

[icabodcrane]

Another question

The McCanns believe the man the Smith family saw that night was the same man Jane Tanner saw almost an hour before  ...  correct  ?

So before they went public with the suggestion that  the moustachioed, buck- toothed man Gail Cooper saw  might have been the abductor,  did they have their private detectives run it past the Smiths  first ?  ...  did they show the Smiths the sketch of Gail Cooper's  creepy man and ask,   "Is this the man you saw that night ?"

I would guess they didn't,  given that the descriptions given by the Smith family, who, like Gail Cooper, saw the man face-on,  did not match her description in any way

I'm resurrecting this thread in light of the fact that we now  know  that the man Jane Tanner saw was  not  the same man the Smiths saw    (  the whole thread is worth re-reading if only because it  demonstrates how people can become absolutely convinced by false information  ) 

Anyway,  my real reason for bumping was with regard to the post I made above,  back in June

I'd like to know when it was that the McCanns produced that e fit of Gail Cooper's  'creepy man' 

They presented it as possibly being the man Jane Tanner saw  ...  and,  by extention,  the man the Smiths saw  (  since they believed that Tanner and the Smiths had seen the  same  man that night  )

Did they  already  have  Henri Exton's e fits when they did that, or not   ? 

[Redblossom]

Icab

The creepyman was done around January 2008

See second entry onwards, page 3965 +

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/POWERPOINT.htm

IIRC the Smithman efits were done in September 2008 (reported in one of the articles these last few weeks, I dont remember which one) and report presented to Mccanns November 2008