The question of sedatives such as Calpol.

[AnneGuedes]

Calpol is a red herring.

Like the open window ? I'm kidding.
I've never heard of anaphylaxis associated to Calpol.

[AnneGuedes]

If Calpol is a red herring, why is it that Amaral, and ONLY Amaral, is the one going on about it?

Extract from Amaral's book - CH 4 - The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep.

Which is totally untrue, of course.

Mr Amaral is so naive that it didn't pass his mind doctors are no fools and would never sedate kids with Calpol ! There are other drugs, quite safe normally.

[ferryman]

Kate's interview on 6 September:

Before they left she took some precautions: put the medicine inside a bag with a clasp in her room inside the wardrobe or the dresser. These were Calpol (paracetamol) and Nurofen (Ibuprofen), for fevers and pains, both for adults and children (liquid form for children). In this bag there was also a small pair of scissors. In the kitchen were cutting elements used to prepare the meals and which were not put out of sight. During their trips it was normal for them to take these medicines. During these holidays she never gave any medicine to her children, nor did Gerry. She now says that Gerry took medicine for acidity called Losec (omeprozole) which they also possessed.

[faithlilly]

Wrong!

Calpol night is the massive red herring.

The subject of calpol arose, for the sole reason that the McCanns themselves raised it, telling the PJ frankly that they had it with them on that holiday.

To be clear, calpol is simple paracetomol for children, and with an excellent record of safety in use with children.

(sic)

"Paracetamol doesn't have any sedative properties whatsoever and neither does Nurofen," he says. "It's a widespread misconception that Calpol helps children to sleep. Doctors used to prescribe antihistamines to help children sleep, but not any longer."
Although these products may not be as effective as soporifics as parents might hope, Prof Stephenson doesn't believe that they are in any way harmful. The two main theoretical risks – that they may mask the symptoms of a more serious medical problem, and the possibility of overdose – are, he believes, slight. "Most parents are assiduous and careful observers of their child. They would be careful to note if they were deteriorating or had developed a rash. There are very few examples of children being overdosed by over-the-counter remedies."
The dosage for children aged one to six is one to two 5ml spoonfuls of the Calpol suspension up to four times a day. For three to 12-month-old babies, it is one to two 2.5ml spoonfuls. A 5ml dose contains 120mg of paracetamol, compared with 500mg per tablet in adult Panadol.
"I've never seen an overdose of Calpol," says Dr Wayne Lenney, a consultant paediatrician. "The only liquid overdoses in children occur when teenagers drink too much alcohol."
Doctors agree that as painkillers these medications are effective and, most importantly, safe. "There was a study in the US of over 80,000 children given ibuprofen and paracetamol, and the number of those who developed side effects that could be attributed to the medicine was absolutely tiny," says Prof Stephenson.
But some parents are wary of using them for fear, in Silke Moser's words, that "at some point, children will become immune to them". Nonsense, says Prof Stephenson. "Your child can't build immunity to these medicines – they won't work less because they have it all the time."
None the less, many parents are looking to alternative and complementary remedies instead of relying on yet another spoonful of Calpol.
Sure Start, the Government's family support agency, subsidises homoeopathy clinics and courses across the country. Harter says many parents say their children never seem completely well. She believes homoeopathic remedies work by supporting the immune system, instead of suppressing it.
Prof Stephenson does not dismiss alternative remedies, but says most have yet to be shown to be effective. "There have been cases of children suffering and dying because parents insisted on using only alternative remedies."
The argument between daily dosers of Calpol and homoeopathic alternatives could be irrelevant. Dr Stephenson says it may be the case that it's not what you give but how you give it that counts. "In most age groups, there is a placebo effect of any medication if it tastes nice and is given to you by somebody who loves you and gives you a cuddle."

(Telegraph)

Calpol of any kind is the red herring. Then again if you are concentrating on the case against Calpol you're not looking at any other sedative.

[AnneGuedes]

These were Calpol (paracetamol) and Nurofen (Ibuprofen)... Gerry took medicine for acidity called Losec (omeprozole) which they also possessed.[/b]

It doesn't seem much compared to what my doctor sister takes each time the six of them travel, all being healthy.

[faithlilly]

Kate's interview on 6 September:

Before they left she took some precautions: put the medicine inside a bag with a clasp in her room inside the wardrobe or the dresser. These were Calpol (paracetamol) and Nurofen (Ibuprofen), for fevers and pains, both for adults and children (liquid form for children). In this bag there was also a small pair of scissors. In the kitchen were cutting elements used to prepare the meals and which were not put out of sight. During their trips it was normal for them to take these medicines. During these holidays she never gave any medicine to her children, nor did Gerry. She now says that Gerry took medicine for acidity called Losec (omeprozole) which they also possessed.

Omeprazole is usually only prescribed when acid reflux is well established and only then in, usually, twenty eight  courses yet the family doctor claimed in his police statement that he had not seen Gerry as a patient in the time they ad been in Rothley. So who did prescribe Gerry the Omeprazole ? Was he self-prescribing ?


ETA rogatory statement of Ian Scholfield,  the McCanns doctor :

'I am currently, and have been for 14 months, the GP of the McCann family. Before Madeleine's disappearance, I had only consulted Kate McCann once and never had assisted Gerry, nor ever had reason to deal with the twins Sean and Amelie and only saw them once after the disappearance of Madeleine.'

[ferryman]

It doesn't seem much compared to what my doctor sister takes each time the six of them travel, all being healthy.

...you're not looking at any other sedative.

Bang on right, and for the excellent reason that there's no conceivable reason beyond the fevered imaginations of [ censored word ]s to do so.

[AnneGuedes]

Calpol of any kind is the red herring. Then again if you are concentrating on the case against Calpol you're not looking at any other sedative.

This is like the moonwalking bear in the famous awareness test.

[faithlilly]

...you're not looking at any other sedative.

Bang on right, and for the excellent reason that there's no conceivable reason beyond the fevered imaginations of [ censored word ]s to do so.

Please do not selectively quote my posts to distort their meaning. Thanks 

[DCI]

Omeprazole is usually only prescribed when acid reflux is well established and only then in, usually, twenty eight  courses yet the family doctor claimed in his police statement that he had not seen Gerry as a patient in the time they ad been in Rothley. So who did prescribe Gerry the Omeprazole? Was he self-prescribing ?


ETA rogatory statement of Ian Scholfield,  the McCanns doctor :

'I am currently, and have been for 14 months, the GP of the McCann family. Before Madeleine's disappearance, I had only consulted Kate McCann once and never had assisted Gerry, nor ever had reason to deal with the twins Sean and Amelie and only saw them once after the disappearance of Madeleine.'

28 courses? My husband has been on Omeprazole for 13 years.

Why would he need to see the doctor, for a repeat prescription?

[AnneGuedes]

28 courses? My husband has been on Omeprazole for 13 years.

Why would he need to see the doctor, for a repeat prescription?

What are doctors for ? Prescribing ? Clinicians are unsubstitutable.

[Puffin]

@DCI

28 courses? My husband has been on Omeprazole for 13 years.

  I have been on it for at least 10 years, it's a godsend.

[faithlilly]

28 courses? My husband has been on Omeprazole for 13 years.

Why would he need to see the doctor, for a repeat prescription?

Apologies I meant two courses of 28 tablets at a time. Long term usage of Omperazole is monitored by doctor.

ETA 'never had assisted Gerry, '. I would think signing repeat prescriptions would be included in 'assisting' a patient.

[ferryman]

Please do not selectively quote my posts to distort their meaning. Thanks 

So you admit Omeprazole has nothing to do with Madeleine's abduction?

Glad we've got that sorted ...

[faithlilly]

So you admit Omeprazole has nothing to do with Madeleine's abduction?

Glad we've got that sorted ...

You're nothing if not predictable