Locally to PdL

[sadie]

The last photograph shows the view down rua de Escola with Aofie standing directly opposite facing rua de Escola.When Aofie first saw the carrier he was 2 m away coming towards her. To see him she had to look to her left meaning the carrier was coming down the street bearing to his right ( if he was bearing to his left Aofie would have had to have looked to her right ).

ETA In the documentary of the Truth of the Lie the carrier bears to the right when coming down Rua de Escola and the party loses sight of him after they have passed so it is entirely possible, in fact probable,  that he turned right at the end of the street.

You are wrong.  She looked left.  He was on the pavement and coming towards her about 2 metres or so away

If she looked left and he was coming towards her, then he was coming from the west and walking easterly

faith.  Think about it.  Draw it on a bit of paper if you cant understand it

An acknowledgement that I am right after all the jibes would be appreciated and an apology would be appreciated as I apologised to you, when I was mistaken

[John]

I don't see what the problem is here.  We know the man carrying an infant came down Rua da Escola Primaria walking towards Aoife who was standing at the top of the steps.  If he approached Aoife only two metres away and from her left then he either went down the steps or east along Rua 25 de Abril.

Had he been intending to turn right and go west along Rua 25 de Abril he would have been nowhere near the steps or Aoife.

Gonçalo Amarals video reconstruction depicts the man almost running down the street with the child and heading towards the steps.

Watch video from 8.50 to end.

[Carana]

Angelo: "My own view is that the PJ were overwhelmed and under extreme pressure to come up with the goods Anne.   When the preliminary DNA tests came through Amaral must have thought all his Christmas's had come at once but when he later learned that they were inconclusive he must have been devastated.  Poor guy.....he really never ever did come back from that."

No one likes to reckon he/she's been fooled ! Had he been as casual as the experts, it might have been different.

Fooled? By whom? Are you suggesting that the DNA experts were "casual"?

Amaral simply didn't understand the DNA issue.

If find that a bit odd as Corte-Real agreed with the conclusions in Portuguese Amaral's documentary.

[AnneGuedes]

I was referring to the 5 experts sent to PDL by Channel 4

[Carana]

I was referring to the 5 experts sent to PDL by Channel 4

Ah. But it's still not clear for me what you meant.

- What is the relationship between the "experts" for Channel 5 and Angelo's comment about DNA?


- Who is "he"?

[faithlilly]

I don't see what the problem is here.  We know the man carrying an infant came down Rua da Escola Primaria walking towards Aoife who was standing at the top of the steps.  If he approached Aoife only two metres away and from her left then he either went down the steps or east along Rua 25 de Abril.

Had he been intending to turn right and go west along Rua 25 de Abril he would have been nowhere near the steps or Aoife.

Gonçalo Amarals video reconstruction depicts the man almost running down the street with the child and heading towards the steps.

Watch video from 8.50 to end.

You are simply wrong John. This is from Peter Smith :

'He also says that when he passed the individual, the individual was descending to his right, and walked past the witness in the middle of the street, given that at that time the traffic was minimal or non-existent.'

The carrier was descending to his right and Aofie had to look to her left to see him which means in all probability he didn't go left to the church/beach but right and carried on up Rua 25 Abril.

[Carana]

A fatality is an accident or disaster on which the subject has no control.

In English, the more common meaning of fatality is death (however it occurred), as does "meeting one's fate".


fa·tal·i·ty 
/fāˈtalitē/
Noun

    An occurrence of death by accident, in war, or from disease.
    A person killed in this way.

Synonyms
fate - doom - destiny

[John]

You are simply wrong John. This is from Peter Smith :

'He also says that when he passed the individual, the individual was descending to his right, and walked past the witness in the middle of the street, given that at that time the traffic was minimal or non-existent.'

The carrier was descending to his right and Aofie had to look to her left to see him which means in all probability he didn't go left to the church/beach but right and carried on up Rua 25 Abril.

Peter and Martin were already walking up the street when the carrier passed them.  Aoife had only just struggled up the steps and was pausing at the top when the carrier approached her.  Had he been going to the right he would have been going away from Aoife and not closing in on her.

Even Amaral shows this in his reconstruction and says so on the video so let's stop this silliness please.

[AnneGuedes]

Do your gifts in informatics allow you to establish where were Mr and Mrs Smith when the carrier went around Peter Smith and his wife ?

[DCI]

Peter and Martin were already walking up the street when the carrier passed them.  Aoife had only just struggled up the steps and was pausing at the top when the carrier approached her.  Had he been going to the right he would have been going away from Aoife and not closing in on her.

Even Amaral shows this in his reconstruction and says so on the video so let's stop this silliness please.

If the carrier was on Peter Smiths right, surely thats the left hand side of the road.

States further that when he passed the individual, the individual was coming down to his right, going around the deponent in the middle of the street. At that time the traffic was minimal or non-existent.

The carrier could have easily gone down the same steps, as the Smiths came up, on to Rua da Calheta, past The Dolphin and Kellys bar. Turn left or right, easy access to the beach.
Where was Mrs Smith's position? No statement from her, just hearsay, she agreed with Martin. Seems odd she wasn't walking close to any of them shown, in the video.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm#p6p1615

[faithlilly]

If the carrier was on Peter Smiths right, surely thats the left hand side of the road.

The carrier could have easily gone down the same steps, as the Smiths came up, on to Rua da Calheta, past The Dolphin and Kellys bar. Turn left or right, easy access to the beach.
Where was Mrs Smith's position? No statement from her, just hearsay, she agreed with Martin. Seems odd she wasn't walking close to any of them shown, in the video.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm#p6p1615

Aofie is shown in the file photograph as standing slightly to the left of the steps when she saw the carrier and she also had to look to her left to see him which means it is very possible he was heading to the right. I think people here are putting her too far to her right. Of course it is an advantage to actually have seen the location involved.

[sadie]

Aofie is shown in the file photograph as standing slightly to the left of the steps when she saw the carrier and she also had to look to her left to see him which means it is very possible he was heading to the right. I think people here are putting her too far to her right. Of course it is an advantage to actually have seen the location involved.

Faith.  You are swerving the issue.

If Aoife is moving in a generally northern direction, and she looks left, (towards the west),....  then if bundleman was coming from that direction, (the west), and walking towards her .... then he MUST be walking towards the East

HE MUST BE WALKING EAST .... sorry to shout but you seem very deaf on this point

You are wrong Faith.


Surely you are not yet another anti/[ censored word ] who cannot do mathematics?  I find that peeps who are hopeless at mathematics cannot do logic.  Tony Bennett is such.



As I apologised to you, I would appreciate an apology from you .


ETA:  Have sent you a private message to make sure that you dont miss this post.  Look forward to your apology after all your sneering at me

[faithlilly]

Faith.  You are swerving the issue.

If Aoife is moving in a generally northern direction, and she looks left, (towards the west),....  then if bundleman was coming from that direction, (the west), and walking towards her .... then he MUST be walking towards the East

HE MUST BE WALKING EAST .... sorry to shout but you seem very deaf on this point

You are wrong Faith.


Surely you are not yet another anti/[ censored word ] who cannot do mathematics?  I find that peeps who are hopeless at mathematics cannot do logic.  Tony Bennett is such.



As I apologised to you, I would appreciate an apology from you .


ETA:  Have sent you a private message to make sure that you dont miss this post.  Look forward to your apology after all your sneering at me

Please do not ever send me a private message again.

[faithlilly]

sadie is not what you say.

Her only failing is to engage with you in the first place.

I have edited my post as I shouldn't have reacted to her nonsense.  Even so my opinion remains the same.

[John]

Amaral had the advantage that he and his men interrogated the Smiths so according to him the carrier went down the steps towards the beach.