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stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #345 on: July 24, 2015, 08:14:17 AM »
they had the intelligence not to do it...unlike those on the Jeremy Kyle show...which is where Lie Detectors belong

No dave, they feared it.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #346 on: July 24, 2015, 08:22:08 AM »

If taking a Polygraph is the only way of moving a case forward then I despair.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #347 on: July 24, 2015, 08:23:06 AM »
No dave, they feared it.

stating opinion as fact as usual....if you did any research you would find that lie detectors can be very inaccurate in giving false positives for innocent people....only an absolute idiot would have taken the unreliable...unproven test

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #348 on: July 24, 2015, 08:24:28 AM »
No he was convicted and jailed for life without the body. He was still claiming he was innocent in jail and after he failed the lie detector he confessed and showed where he had hidden the body.

Debbie Garlick who began dating Prout a year after he murdered Kate had launched a campaign to win his freedom.

Prout had nothing to lose and everything to gain...he probably felt he could beat the test...it isn't difficult evidently

stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #349 on: July 24, 2015, 08:29:06 AM »
stating opinion as fact as usual....if you did any research you would find that lie detectors can be very inaccurate in giving false positives for innocent people....only an absolute idiot would have taken the unreliable...unproven test

Again, you don't read, as per usual.

They are used as part of an investigation, not the be all and end all.

Polygraphs can also reveal liars.

It is not a one way street.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #350 on: July 24, 2015, 08:29:49 AM »
Prout had nothing to lose and everything to gain...he probably felt he could beat the test...it isn't difficult evidently

He didn't manage it though, did he?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #351 on: July 24, 2015, 08:33:28 AM »
He didn't manage it though, did he?
no he didn't but it is evidently not difficult with the right training. That's why the result of a test would not prove anything ...It certainly would provide no evidence of the McCanns innocence

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #352 on: July 24, 2015, 09:04:42 AM »
If taking a Polygraph is the only way of moving a case forward then I despair.

If you are getting nowhere with certain suspects because they refuse to answer questions then I believe a lie detector should be used in those circumstances. You have to be in control not them. They don't answer questions because they are scared. Now here's a lie detector test for you for being uncooperative  %£&)**#
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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #353 on: July 24, 2015, 09:21:25 AM »
no he didn't but it is evidently not difficult with the right training. That's why the result of a test would not prove anything ...It certainly would provide no evidence of the McCanns innocence

I know nothing about polygraphs but I do know that lying is a complex matter. As I said on another thread, [moderated]s pick their victims with care and they target those who want to believe. Similarly the wife who wants to believe her husband is faithful will ignore evidence to the contrary until it becomes too much. Lying to large groups such as TV audiences is more difficult because the audience is unknown. Politicians are often trained to avoid direct lying for that reason. They learn how to give ambiguous answers and how to answer the question they want to answer rather than the one asked. A polygraph operator would ask direct questions and wouldn't accept diversion, so much more difficult to deal with imo. Innocent or guilty it's too much of a risk.
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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #354 on: July 24, 2015, 09:27:03 AM »
If you are getting nowhere with certain suspects because they refuse to answer questions then I believe a lie detector should be used in those circumstances. You have to be in control not them. They don't answer questions because they are scared. Now here's a lie detector test for you for being uncooperative  %£&)**#

How do you force them to take it?

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #355 on: July 24, 2015, 10:07:34 AM »
How do you force them to take it?

You cannot be forced to take a polygraph test.  For obvious reasons.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #356 on: July 24, 2015, 10:11:39 AM »
What precisely is your problem with what I have written?

I have no "problem" with what you have written at all.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #357 on: July 24, 2015, 10:17:20 AM »
You cannot be forced to take a polygraph test.  For obvious reasons.

Thought not.

Thank you, Jean Pierre.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #358 on: July 24, 2015, 11:18:09 AM »
Thought not.

Thank you, Jean Pierre.

I'm surprised you had to have that verified Eleanor.

In this instance we are not talking about forcing the McCanns to take a polygraph but them willingly taking one in order to refocus the investigation.
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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #359 on: July 24, 2015, 11:21:51 AM »
I'm surprised you had to have that verified Eleanor.

In this instance we are not talking about forcing the McCanns to take a polygraph but them willingly taking one in order to refocus the investigation.

It wouldn't refocus the investigation.  The McCanns are innocent and Scotland Yard knows this.