New hope in Maddy inquiry as CPS lawyers travel to Portugal

[Redblossom]

For God' sake, I despair.  What are we all doing here?  Why are we bothering to answer puerile questions?  There is nothing to implicate The McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter, so why do we go on bothering?

Which question on this thread was peurile?

[Rachel Granada]

For God' sake, I despair.  What are we all doing here?  Why are we bothering to answer puerile questions?  There is nothing to implicate The McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter, so why do we go on bothering?

I understand your point, Eleanor.  On a personal note, I will continue going in to bat for Kate and Gerry McCann as long as there are lies, libel and smears being promulgated.  Downright lies such as the 15/19 markers, the bloody footprint and the refrigeration nonsense are STILL being spread even today.  And the 6 corpses, Chaplins... 

[Redblossom]

I understand your point, Eleanor.  On a personal note, I will continue going in to bat for Kate and Gerry McCann as long as there are lies, libel and smears being promulgated.  Downright lies such as the 15/19 markers, the bloody footprint and the refrigeration nonsense are STILL being spread even today.  And the 6 corpses, Chaplins... 

has anyone here said the mccanns were in chaplins or that madeleine was stored in a fridge? Or that there was a bloody footprint? Why continue to import some of the more extreme ideas with no evidence at all from other places into THIS forum? is it to sully all discussion with the excesses of some in other places? Why would you want to do that? Its disingenuous and disrespectful and if you want to slag off nutters or nutty ideas do it where those discussions take place.

15/19 is technically correct and the six dead bodies has provenance, these two are slightly different from total myths

[icabodcrane]

For God' sake, I despair.  What are we all doing here?  Why are we bothering to answer puerile questions?  There is nothing to implicate The McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter, so why do we go on bothering?

At the risk of being  'puerile'  in what way do you think the involvement of the British Crown Prosection Service might be a positive development for the McCanns ? 

[Carana]

has anyone here said the mccanns were in chaplins or that madeleine was stored in a fridge? Or that there was a bloody footprint? Why continue to import some of the more extreme ideas with no evidence at all from other places into THIS forum? is it to sully all discussion with the excesses of some in other places? Why would you want to do that? Its disingenuous and disrespectful and if you want to slag off nutters or nutty ideas do it where those discussions take place.

15/19 is technically correct and the six dead bodies has provenance, these two are slightly different from total myths

As to what?

[Redblossom]

As to what?

15 markers of madeleines 19 were found, so IS technically correct and not a myth, how thatis interpreted is a totally different issue in a mixed sample

the provenance of the dead bodies whichMrs Mccann was in contact with IS as you know Mr Cristovaos book, (it couldbe elsewhere too) and further reported by the media in both countries so is not a media or forum myth, thats the difference basically between those examples and total myths with absolutely no evidence at all, apart from hearsay especially in the  chaplins story where the only *evidence* was a forum posters posts

[icabodcrane]

15 markers of madeleines 19 were found, so IS technically correct and not a myth, how thatis interpreted is a totally different issue in a mixed sample

the provenance of the dead bodies whichMrs Mccann was in contact with IS as you know Mr Cristovaos book, (it couldbe elsewhere too) and further reported by the media in both countries so is not a media or forum myth, thats the difference basically between those examples and total myths with absolutely no evidence at all, apart from hearsay especially in the  chaplins story where the only *evidence* was a forum posters posts

Might be an idea not to allow this thread to be driven off topic Redblossom

The news that the  Head of the Crown Prosecution Service has been in Portugal is a major development that is worthy of unmuddied discussion

[Rachel Granada]

Might be an idea not to allow this thread to be driven off topic Redblossom

The news that the  Head of the Crown Prosecution Service has been in Portugal is a major development that is worthy of unmuddied discussion

yes you're right icabod - sorry that I helped in taking things off topic with the 15/19 markers etc.  Back on topic! I see this as things moving in the right direction to bringing Madeleine's abductor to justice.

[Redblossom]

Might be an idea not to allow this thread to be driven off topic Redblossom

The news that the  Head of the Crown Prosecution Service has been in Portugal is a major development that is worthy of unmuddied discussion

point taken icab,  you listening too granada? good!

And others?
 

[sadie]

Wum, wum, wum.  Slap the Mccanns about ... and the Ciprianos.  Bull up certian peeps in the PJ, most of whom have been found guilty of some crime .. or are awaiting trial.

That's all it is about, plus the prolification of myths




My thoughts are that some people will be dashing for cover soon.  When SY gets going, bringing peeps in and charging..

cos my bet is that after the main thrust of sorting the case ... and trying to find the missing kids, they will start sorting out some of the peeps who are asking for it ... by putting out disinformation..


If the cap fits, wear it.  If it doesn't you have nothing to worry about.

[sadie]

I understand your point, Eleanor.  On a personal note, I will continue going in to bat for Kate and Gerry McCann as long as there are lies, libel and smears being promulgated.  Downright lies such as the 15/19 markers, the bloody footprint and the refrigeration nonsense are STILL being spread even today.  And the 6 corpses, Chaplins... 

I feel the same too

And Eleanor is completely right as usual

For God' sake, I despair.  What are we all doing here?  Why are we bothering to answer puerile questions?  There is nothing to implicate The McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter, so why do we go on bothering?

But we keep going. 

For Justice sake

[DCI]

Wum, wum, wum.  Slap the Mccanns about ... and the Ciprianos.  Bull up certian peeps in the PJ, most of whom have been found guilty of some crime .. or are awaiting trial.

That's all it is about, plus the prolification of myths

My thoughts are that some people will be dashing for cover soon.  When SY gets going, bringing peeps in and charging..

cos my bet is that after the main thrust of sorting the case ... and trying to find the missing kids, they will start sorting out some of the peeps who are asking for it ... by putting out disinformation..

If the cap fits, wear it.  If it doesn't you have nothing to worry about.

  Well said Sadie!

[Carana]

IFFF confirmed, the news seems to be:


London’s chief crown prosecutor Alison Saunders and her deputy Jenny Hopkins flew to Portugal in April to meet counterparts to discuss leads identified in the Met’s review.

If confirmed, they may have flown over to discuss various issues, some of which may not concern Madeleine. On the other hand, is it likely that two people from the CPS would have flown over and NOT discussed the way forward on this case?

[icabodcrane]

yes you're right icabod - sorry that I helped in taking things off topic with the 15/19 markers etc.  Back on topic! I see this as things moving in the right direction to bringing Madeleine's abductor to justice.

If that were the case Rachel,  then Scotland Yard would need to have  identified the 'abductor'  ...  there would be no point in passing the review to the Crown Prosecution Service  unless those who were suspected of committing a crime were named

If Scotland Yard HAD  identified  the abductor  (  with supporting evidence )  then that would certainly have been sufficient to convince the Portuguese to re-open the case  ...  don't you think   ?

[Redblossom]

IFFF confirmed, the news seems to be:


London’s chief crown prosecutor Alison Saunders and her deputy Jenny Hopkins flew to Portugal in April to meet counterparts to discuss leads identified in the Met’s review.

If confirmed, they may have flown over to discuss various issues, some of which may not concern Madeleine. On the other hand, is it likely that two people from the CPS would have flown over and NOT discussed the way forward on this case?

Why would the british cps fly out to portugal for anything other than the madeleine case? With the met?