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Offline faithlilly

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #180 on: June 29, 2013, 09:09:02 PM »
We know what Robert Murat thought about the PJ tactics & Amaral.

ROBERT MURAT: At one stage I was taken to an area where they wanted to fingerprint me and take photographs and all that kind of stuff. And I think they were trying to disorient,er, me because they moved me around from room to room, hallway to hallway, corridor to corridor and it seemed very choreographed calling out, “Well, take photographs of him” and you know, he’s, er, “We want to send a team to Poland.” It was kind of a choreographed situation.

RB: What, to intimidate you?

ROBERT MURAT: Yeah, I think so. And it did intimidate me at the time. Its now that I realise what was going on. I had five people rushing into a room and, erm, and standing behind me and it felt very very ‘Life on Mars’. It felt very, er you know, erm, just very pressured.

RB: He was questioned for nineteen hours before he was released. The next day he returned to collect his belongings and Robert Murat says he met Goncalo Amaral, the lead detective.

ROBERT MURAT: He basically told me it was a game of two halves and as the night before I hadn’t confessed, erm, then, he would get me on the second half and he just kind of turned his back on me. He didn’t… He just… It seemed he didn’t care about the truth. That was the, that's how I felt.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/transcript-of-panorama-madeleine-mccann/

Tell me Mrs B if Murat had taken Madeleine and the tactics Amaral employed had persuaded him to confess and as a result she was found, wouldn't you be praising the way he investigated the case now ?
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Re: Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #181 on: June 29, 2013, 09:09:33 PM »
I seem to remember there was something beige on the McCanns bed in the photographs in the files. Could they have been the trousers ?  Also how easy would it have been to remove a jacket before the police arrived ?

As to the police not removing the trousers, didn't they bungle the investigation according to you ? Couldn't that have been just another bungle ?

'Yes, what look like pyjama trousers. Also they have stripes on, if you zoom in!'

Are the above not your words ? In a pile how can you tell the difference between trousers and pyjama trousers ?

You said, ON THE BED! Thats what I replied to. So did Mrs B.
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Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #182 on: June 29, 2013, 09:14:34 PM »
You said, ON THE BED! Thats what I replied to. So did Mrs B.

Where didn't I make it clear I was talking about the bed also.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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« Reply #183 on: June 29, 2013, 09:18:36 PM »
You said, ON THE BED! Thats what I replied to. So did Mrs B.

Are people blind? You can clearly see a sleeve with a cuff, what kind of trousers have those?

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Re: Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #184 on: June 29, 2013, 09:20:21 PM »
Where didn't I make it clear I was talking about the bed also.

What do you think I was replying to, Jeez, give me strength!
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #185 on: June 29, 2013, 09:32:25 PM »
What do you think I was replying to, Jeez, give me strength!
It was you mentioned the draw  8-)(--)

By draw I assume you mean drawer. This is what I wrote :

'Absolute nonsense. The piece of clothing on the bed couldn't possibly be the same material as the pyjamas in the drawer.'

You mentioned stripes and I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that you were linking the trousers ON THE BED and the garments in the drawer together.

No need really for rudeness, or is that just your default position towards anyone who doesn't agree with you ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #186 on: July 02, 2013, 03:28:19 PM »
Tell me Mrs B if Murat had taken Madeleine and the tactics Amaral employed had persuaded him to confess and as a result she was found, wouldn't you be praising the way he investigated the case now ?

Don't kid yourself, we already know about his tactics, he wasn't interested in the truth, he was only interested in getting a confession from someone. Utterly lazy & incompetent approach to police work.

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #187 on: July 02, 2013, 05:11:28 PM »
Tell me Mrs B if Murat had taken Madeleine and the tactics Amaral employed had persuaded him to confess and as a result she was found, wouldn't you be praising the way he investigated the case now ?


Such practices are reminiscent of the fascists in a former time in Portugal but by the looks of it some remnants of this regime remain within the PJ hierarchy.

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #188 on: July 02, 2013, 06:10:05 PM »

Such practices are reminiscent of the fascists in a former time in Portugal but by the looks of it some remnants of this regime remain within the PJ hierarchy.
It is an unfortunate fact that when a former totalitarian state, be it fascist or communist, becomes a democracy, it is often the army and the police who remain entrenched in the old ways.   Look at any of the former Soviet controlled countries.
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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #189 on: July 02, 2013, 06:33:31 PM »
Don't kid yourself, we already know about his tactics, he wasn't interested in the truth, he was only interested in getting a confession from someone. Utterly lazy & incompetent approach to police work.

Agreed.  Kate and Gerry McCann were fortunate to avoid "falling down the stairs" at the Portimao cop-shop.

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #190 on: July 02, 2013, 06:35:30 PM »
It is an unfortunate fact that when a former totalitarian state, be it fascist or communist, be cones a democracy, it is often the army and the police who remain entrenched in the old ways.   Look at any of the former Soviet controlled countries.

Indeed so.  This is very much my experience in Spain, even the town hall administrators in many of the ayuntamientos behave in such a manner.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #191 on: July 03, 2013, 02:12:11 AM »
Agreed.  Kate and Gerry McCann were fortunate to avoid "falling down the stairs" at the Portimao cop-shop.

What a pathetic and irrational post, they were protected by the english counsel and many others, silly. Not forgetting the worlds media, silly

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Offline Jazzy

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #192 on: July 03, 2013, 06:53:32 AM »
What a pathetic and irrational post, they were protected by the english counsel and many others, silly. Ot doegwtting the worlds media, silly

Pardon?

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #193 on: July 03, 2013, 08:00:48 AM »
Pardon?

I  really don't like these spurious rejections of legitimate questions

I understand that it is a classic propaganda technique used to  delegitimize an opponent in order to  to avoid addressing the substance of the argument  ....  and I see that Redblossom is frequently  made the ad hominem goal that obscures the opportunity for  opponents to be heard respectfully in any debate


I don't like it at all   

stephen25000

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #194 on: July 03, 2013, 08:33:45 AM »
Agreed.  Kate and Gerry McCann were fortunate to avoid "falling down the stairs" at the Portimao cop-shop.


What a load of cobblers.

Do you really seriously believe the PJ would have done that ?