The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.

[Mrs. B]

Here's Amaral's theory!

Gonçalo Amaral in El Mundo: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine corpse in the Beach



http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/gonalo-amaral-in-el-mundo-gerry-mccann.html

[Benice]

If the man the Smith's saw was Gerry then I would think his choice of hiding place was practical rather than strategic, in that it was probably the first place he came across. The concealing of the body, if found, could be blamed on the abductor therefore I'm not sure that the place chosen was chosen for concealment in the longterm but simply to put distance between the McCanns and the body and to bolster the story of abduction.

As to removing the body at around 10pm rather than in the middle of the night there may be many reasons for this, among them :

1. Panicked reaction by McCanns.
2. If the body was found the time of death would be absolutely apparent so how would the McCanns explain that someone had abducted an already dead body ?
3. If seen it be much less conspicuous to be carrying around a child at 10pm when parents would be bringing their children from the crèche than in the early hours of the morning.

So what time was the body found?

What panic?  Gerry was chatting to Jez perfectly normally at 9.20ish and then went and had his meal.  Kate and the others also behaved perfectly normally, eating, drinking, chatting at the restaurant until the alarm was raised.   No-one panicked in the slightest until after then.

Never in a million years would Gerry decide to walk round PdL openly carrying a dead body, not even covered up or hidden in any way, on the offchance that he MIGHT just get lucky and find somewhere to dump it.   They had all spent every evening in the restaurant and so he would have no idea how many people or what traffic would be around at 10.00 at night.   And can you imagine the others letting him do something so stupid!   

Sorry Faith, it doesn't work for me.  By claiming Gerry could have been the man the Smiths saw you are trying to fit a quart into a pint pot IMO  - and that's simply not possible.



       

[Mrs. B]

Which is exactly why it was discarded by both the Portuguese AG & Scotland Yard. It's simply a delusional idea.

[AnneGuedes]

They did not know it was impossible, so they did it!

[faithlilly]

So what time was the body found?

What panic?  Gerry was chatting to Jez perfectly normally at 9.20ish and then went and had his meal.  Kate and the others also behaved perfectly normally, eating, drinking, chatting at the restaurant until the alarm was raised.   No-one panicked in the slightest until after then.

Never in a million years would Gerry decide to walk round PdL openly carrying a dead body, not even covered up or hidden in any way, on the offchance that he MIGHT just get lucky and find somewhere to dump it.   They had all spent every evening in the restaurant and so he would have no idea how many people or what traffic would be around at 10.00 at night.   And can you imagine the others letting him do something so stupid!   

Sorry Faith, it doesn't work for me.  By claiming Gerry could have been the man the Smiths saw you are trying to fit a quart into a pint pot IMO  - and that's simply not possible. As to his friends letting him take a particular course of action you are assuming they knew what had happened at that point.



     

If Gerry's check was after his talk with Jez ( Jez wasn't certain whether Gerry was coming or going from the apartment) then that would explain Gerry's 'normal' behaviour. After that visit there are no witness statements that say anything about how the McCanns and their friends were acting. In fact I can't remember any of the serving staff actually mentioning the seeing Kate run back to the table and raise the alarm.

As to the traffic issue Gerry himself says that he didn't see anyone on the previous nights while checking so I think he would have a good idea how likely it would be that he would be seen.As to his friends letting him take a particular course of action you are assuming they knew what had happened at that point

[Benice]

If Gerry's check was after his talk with Jez ( Jez wasn't certain whether Gerry was coming or going from the apartment) then that would explain Gerry's 'normal' behaviour. After that visit there are no witness statements that say anything about how the McCanns and their friends were acting. In fact I can't remember any of the serving staff actually mentioning the seeing Kate run back to the table and raise the alarm.

As to the traffic issue Gerry himself says that he didn't see anyone on the previous nights while checking so I think he would have a good idea how likely it would be that he would be seen.As to his friends letting him take a particular course of action you are assuming they knew what had happened at that point

Gerry didn't go into Pdl he just took the one road back to the apartment.  He could have no idea what was going on elsewhere in the village.

I find it hard to believe that when they parted company Jez would not notice which direction Gerry headed off in.  i.e.  Up to road to the apartment, or down the road to the restaurant.    He didn't just vanish into thin air on the spot.

If you really believe that all those people could take the news that Madeleine was dead, and still remain sitting at the table eating their meals and carrying on as if Gerry had just told them he'd found a dead beetle on his way back to the table, then we have no chance of agreeing on anything Faith. 

The shock would be massive!  It is not humanly possible for them to be able to appear totally unmoved - and to calmly start planning a cover up.  Kate would have been beside herself from the moment she heard the news.  This was her little daughter FGS!   There would be pandemonium!     And no way would the restaurant staff have NOT noticed it.   However, they didn't notice anything odd, and that's because nothing odd happened.

Give it up Faith - the reaction and behaviour you are suggesting is not humanly possibly to achieve  - especially when you have had no notice at all of what is about to happen.








 

[Eleanor]

I can hardly believe some of what is being suggested.  Gerry running around PdL with a dead body over his shoulder?  Dumping it in a bin and hot footing back to the Tapas bar?  Dumping it in a derelict property that at least some will have searched?  All while Kate is throwing a wobbly before he actually gets back?  And that's before we get into retrieving the decomposing body three weeks later.
You would have to make this up.

[DCI]

If Gerry's check was after his talk with Jez ( Jez wasn't certain whether Gerry was coming or going from the apartment) then that would explain Gerry's 'normal' behaviour. After that visit there are no witness statements that say anything about how the McCanns and their friends were acting. In fact I can't remember any of the serving staff actually mentioning the seeing Kate run back to the table and raise the alarm.

As to the traffic issue Gerry himself says that he didn't see anyone on the previous nights while checking so I think he would have a good idea how likely it would be that he would be seen.As to his friends letting him take a particular course of action you are assuming they knew what had happened at that point

Later, between 22.00 and 22.30, when the witness was in the kitchen, he was informed by a colleague that in the meantime a client had entered the restaurant shouting and that afterwards the whole English had left in a panic. The witness' colleague told him that this individual had said that a child had disappeared. A few minutes later the witness noticed great agitation, with many people everywhere searching for the child.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOAQUIM-J-M-BAPTISTA.htm

[Benice]

Here's Amaral's theory!

Gonçalo Amaral in El Mundo: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine corpse in the Beach

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/gonalo-amaral-in-el-mundo-gerry-mccann.html

Thanks Mrs B -  I've never read that before.   So have I got this right?  Gerry buried Madeleine on the beach, then a few days later went in his car (which he didn't have) and moved her again (to the freezer?)  - and then 3 weeks later moved her again in another car to a third place which has never been found!   And all in the glare of the world's press.

So where were the PJ?   Surely they should have been following Gerry ?    Ahh but nooo   - Amaral decided his men would be better occupied following the British police who had arrived. 

How the interviewer kept a straight face I will never know.  I'm gobsmacked.

 

 

[Mrs. B]

Thanks Mrs B -  I've never read that before.   So have I got this right?  Gerry buried Madeleine on the beach, then a few days later went in his car (which he didn't have) and moved her again (to the freezer?)  - and then 3 weeks later moved her again in another car to a third place which has never been found!   And all in the glare of the world's press.

So where were the PJ?   Surely they should have been following Gerry ?    Ahh but nooo   - Amaral decided his men would be better occupied following the British police who had arrived. 


How the interviewer kept a straight face I will never know.  I'm gobsmacked.

Yes, and as I said above, he also dug that large hole in the sand with his bare hands, as nobody reported seeing man carrying child + large shovel.

[DCI]

Yes, and as I said above, he also dug that large hole in the sand with his bare hands, as nobody reported seeing man carrying child + large shovel.

Oh you must have missed Gerry with a shovel, Mrs B.

We were told this years ago, along with the tiles being parquet tiles. 

[Mrs. B]

Oh you must have missed Gerry with a shovel, Mrs B.

We were told this years ago, along with the tiles being parquet tiles. 

Ah, I must have missed that, I guess the shovel must be in the same place as the non existing fridge.

[Rachel Granada]

A - So did I. She is not cold. There was a moment, in a meeting with them, when we set out the sofa theory. Kate puts her head down, looking distant, and, after a few seconds, she looked up again as if nothing had happened. She looked like she was escaping from the role that she was interpreting.

Here Amaral is giving the impression that he was in on that meeting with Kate when in truth he had never met Kate McCann.  I see he's also peddling the rubbish that Calpol is a "sleeping solution" in that interview.

So just in that one interview he is twisting the truth and lying about Calpol having soporific qualities.

[Rachel Granada]

Yes, and as I said above, he also dug that large hole in the sand with his bare hands, as nobody reported seeing man carrying child + large shovel.

He's superhuman that Gerry McCann isn't he - he's a master criminal who can be in two places at once and dig a big hole with his bare hands! 

[Mrs. B]

I've always said that Amaral's most libellous comments aren't in his book but in the various interviews he later did.