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Offline sadie

Re: Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2013, 12:22:23 AM »
Obviously you have never been to PDL. As sadie will confirm if you turn right from the location of the Smith sighting and carry on up the hill on the way back to the OC there are several dilapidated buildings which would make an excellent hiding place and there are also several large bins.

As to Gerry knowing about the emptying times of the bins, if he expected the body to be found, and the death blamed on the abductor, he didn't have to know. That the body wasn't found was a simple twist of fate.

Also, as I have said before,I don't believe the body was retrieved or spent anytime in the Scenic.

But he did NOT turn tight as was mentioned in one of the threads earlier.  The stragglers in the Smiths party observed him going in an easterly direction.  Now that might only have been a few steps east and it might have been to take him around them so that he could carry on downhill, down the steps they had just come up. 

We dont know that, BUT we Do know that he did NOT turn right, which is West.  He either went South or he went East.

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Re: Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2013, 12:22:32 AM »
I'm not inventing this, DCI. They passed every night, except on Sunday. It's referred to in Searching for Madeleine: A Dispatches Special, 18 October 2007
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id49.html

Didn't you say the sites were locked at night?
You also said how many bins were searched, on the night!
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« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2013, 12:26:31 AM »
No, Mrs. B, I've answered you immediately when you asked about the who, what, when, where why. Don't you remember ?
This is evidently only a possible scenario, I find it more challenging than the abduction by a stranger and on top of that from bed one, this one I find not insane but vulgar.

No you didn't answer - you said every night, not what time. And the "bin theory" very much hinges on the TIME the bins were emptied. Early evening? Late evening? After the disappearance or before? This should not be too hard to find out, local residents would know.

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« Reply #78 on: June 27, 2013, 12:32:31 AM »
A Dispatches Special, 18 October 2007
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id49.html

Portugal has many more paedophiles than it cares to admit, and an odd attitude towards underage sex. Under Portuguese law, the age of consent (between couples of the same age) is 13.
Our experts also noted that when children are found to have been abused, the victim is taken into care, while the abuser is often left free.
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« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2013, 12:33:04 AM »
But he did NOT turn tight as was mentioned in one of the threads earlier.  The stragglers in the Smiths party observed him going in an easterly direction.  Now that might only have been a few steps east and it might have been to take him around them so that he could carry on downhill, down the steps they had just come up. 

We dont know that, BUT we Do know that he did NOT turn right, which is West.  He either went South or he went East.

Now that's not true, is it sadie ?

Martin Smith : 'He is not aware where this person was headed. He only saw him as they passed each other.'

Aofie Smith : ' She did not see if the referenced individual with the child descended Rua das Escadinhas or if he continued along Rua 25 de Abril. '

Peter Smith : 'He does not know what direction the individual took as he only saw him as they passed each other.'
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« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2013, 12:47:10 AM »
No you didn't answer - you said every night, not what time. And the "bin theory" very much hinges on the TIME the bins were emptied. Early evening? Late evening? After the disappearance or before? This should not be too hard to find out, local residents would know.
Why do you think Mrs McCann lifted the lid of a bin around 6am ? Yes, the bins were empty, the truck had gone and nobody could have noticed what was in the bins.
The time they pass depends on the quantity of stuff to collect. Almost 200 containers in PDL. In the beginning of May it was around 2/3am. I think now they pass later.

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« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2013, 12:51:39 AM »
Now that's not true, is it sadie ?

Martin Smith : 'He is not aware where this person was headed. He only saw him as they passed each other.'

Aofie Smith : ' She did not see if the referenced individual with the child descended Rua das Escadinhas or if he continued along Rua 25 de Abril. '

Peter Smith : 'He does not know what direction the individual took as he only saw him as they passed each other.'
Sadie is right : he either went south (steps) or east (church). But he might have changed his mind towards west when Aoife was gone.

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« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2013, 12:55:24 AM »
Didn't you say the sites were locked at night?
You also said how many bins were searched, on the night!
The stuff goes first to a certain (closed) place where it is pressed underground. After another truck picks the product and takes it to the landfill.
I'm aware everybody is horrified, but in fact what quickly happens to bodies inside of coffins is horrible as well.

Offline Mrs. B

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« Reply #83 on: June 27, 2013, 01:01:37 AM »
Why do you think Mrs McCann lifted the lid of a bin around 6am ? Yes, the bins were empty, the truck had gone and nobody could have noticed what was in the bins.
The time they pass depends on the quantity of stuff to collect. Almost 200 containers in PDL. In the beginning of May it was around 2/3am. I think now they pass later.

Just because Kate McCann lifted the lid to the bin doesn't actually mean that they KNEW which time the bins were emptied, does it?

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« Reply #84 on: June 27, 2013, 01:02:13 AM »
No, her reality is real. Amaral on the other hand, seems to have a real problem with distinguishing what is real from what is not.
Excuse me, Mrs. B, but you're not Mrs McCann and therefore you can't possibly claim that "her reality is real" ! The simple use of "her" reveals it is not. Read again "Madeleine", perhaps you'll understand what I mean.
Mr Amaral, as I already said, has much in common with Mrs McCann. One and the other are prone to reject a perception contrary to their expectations.

Offline sadie

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« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2013, 01:07:35 AM »
Now that's not true, is it sadie ?

Martin Smith : 'He is not aware where this person was headed. He only saw him as they passed each other.'

Aofie Smith : ' She did not see if the referenced individual with the child descended Rua das Escadinhas or if he continued along Rua 25 de Abril. '

Peter Smith : 'He does not know what direction the individual took as he only saw him as they passed each other.'

It is true and it was posted earlier on this forum. 

Unlike you and yours, I do not have a back up team finding things in the files, and feeding them to me ... and I aint wasting time revisiting things that are already posted.

One of the stragglers coming up the steps saw him veer to her right.  In other words he was NOT going West, but east towards the Church and Malinkas place ... or maybe south in the general direction of the small rocky beach.

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Re: Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2013, 01:08:59 AM »
Just because Kate McCann lifted the lid to the bin doesn't actually mean that they KNEW which time the bins were emptied, does it?
They likely didn't, why would they have bothered ? Mrs McCann checked the truck had passed. The abduction story gained weight. Don't forget it was like in a nightmare but they weren't dreaming.

Offline Mrs. B

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« Reply #87 on: June 27, 2013, 01:09:07 AM »
Sorry but I simply don't agree, Kate McCann is writing about HER experiences, they are REAL to her, nobody else can say they are not. Amaral on the other hand waffles on about people he hasn't even MET before, he describes Kate McCann's feelings though he's never even talked to her. And that is made purely in an attempt to deceive the reader that he had first hand knowledge, which we now know he had NOT.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2013, 01:09:15 AM »
Sadie is right : he either went south (steps) or east (church). But he might have changed his mind towards west when Aoife was gone.

She isn't Anne. At the bottom of the road the carrier could have turned right and carried on up the hill. I was in PDL the night the Smith sighting was being filmed for Amaral's documentary and saw the actor filming the scene while walking by on the road he could have taken.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

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« Reply #89 on: June 27, 2013, 01:13:34 AM »
They likely didn't, why would they have bothered ? Mrs McCann checked the truck had passed. The abduction story gained weight. Don't forget it was like in a nightmare but they weren't dreaming.

That just doesn't make sense, so they chuck their child in the bin & then they tell the world that they went & checked the bin? It was Kate McCann who said she'd checked it, not Amaral, now why on earth would she care to share that detail if she knew her dead child had been in it?