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Rachel Granada

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #195 on: July 03, 2013, 11:13:31 AM »
Quote from: icabodcrane on July 03, 2013, 08:00:48 AM
I  really don't like these spurious rejections of legitimate questions

I understand that it is a classic propaganda technique used to  delegitimize an opponent in order to  to avoid addressing the substance of the argument  ....  and I see that Redblossom is frequently  made the ad hominem goal that obscures the opportunity for  opponents to be heard respectfully in any debate


I don't like it at all

I will not entertain rude and abusive posters - end of chat. 
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Rachel Granada

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #196 on: July 03, 2013, 11:18:50 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on July 03, 2013, 08:33:45 AM

What a load of cobblers.

Do you really seriously believe the PJ would have done that ?

Go on then, I'll bite...

Yes I do seriously believe that.  I bet the Ciprianos would too.  And the young German tourist who was beaten up for the crime of not having a tram ticket.  And the railway worker that Tavares de Almeida was recently convicted of battering.  And maybe many more ...
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stephen25000

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #197 on: July 03, 2013, 11:50:21 AM »
Quote from: Rachel Granada on July 03, 2013, 11:18:50 AM
Go on then, I'll bite...

Yes I do seriously believe that.  I bet the Ciprianos would too.  And the young German tourist who was beaten up for the crime of not having a tram ticket.  And the railway worker that Tavares de Almeida was recently convicted of battering.  And maybe many more ...

There is no excuse for beating up suspects, unless of course you go down the Guantanamo Bay school of thought, which I don't.

Do you believe other police forces around the world haven't beaten suspects as well, including in the UK ?
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Offline Benice

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #198 on: July 03, 2013, 11:56:02 AM »
Quote from: Rachel Granada on July 03, 2013, 11:18:50 AM
Go on then, I'll bite...

Yes I do seriously believe that.  I bet the Ciprianos would too.  And the young German tourist who was beaten up for the crime of not having a tram ticket.  And the railway worker that Tavares de Almeida was recently convicted of battering.  And maybe many more ...

Amaral's criminal conviction for his part in covering up the torture of a defenceless woman - is also a bit of a clue.
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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #199 on: July 03, 2013, 12:23:36 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on July 03, 2013, 11:50:21 AM
There is no excuse for beating up suspects, unless of course you go down the Guantanamo Bay school of thought, which I don't.

Do you believe other police forces around the world haven't beaten suspects as well, including in the UK ?
Those attacks only delegitimize their authors, whatever or whoever is behind.
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Offline Carana

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #200 on: July 03, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »
Quote from: icabodcrane on July 03, 2013, 08:00:48 AM
I  really don't like these spurious rejections of legitimate questions

I understand that it is a classic propaganda technique used to  delegitimize an opponent in order to  to avoid addressing the substance of the argument  ....  and I see that Redblossom is frequently  made the ad hominem goal that obscures the opportunity for  opponents to be heard respectfully in any debate


I don't like it at all



I'm not sure I understand what you were referring to.

Jazzy seems to have simply asked for clarification.

What does "Ot doegwtting the worlds media, silly" mean? I didn't understand it, either.



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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #201 on: July 03, 2013, 02:29:36 PM »
Quote from: Redblossom on July 03, 2013, 02:12:11 AM
What a pathetic and irrational post, they were protected by the english counsel and many others, silly. Not forgetting the worlds media, silly

edited for typos,have a nice day
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And who was Leonor Cipriano protected by when she was hauled out of prison and interrogated without anyone present.  Except for several PJ detectives and Amaral that is.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #202 on: July 03, 2013, 02:41:45 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on July 03, 2013, 02:29:36 PM
And who was Leonor Cipriano protected by when she was hauled out of prison and interrogated without anyone present.  Except for several PJ detectives and Amaral that is.

Two mistakes there Angelo. Cipriano's lawyer was present but Amaral wasn't. It really is rather dishonest of you propagate such easily disproved msinformation.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Angelo222

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #203 on: July 03, 2013, 02:57:31 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 03, 2013, 02:41:45 PM
Two mistakes there Angelo. Cipriano's lawyer was present but Amaral wasn't. It really is rather dishonest of you propagate such easily disproved msinformation.

Her lawyer wasn't in attendance when she was beaten up obviously. Leonor also said that she saw Amaral standing in the background.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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stephen25000

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #204 on: July 03, 2013, 03:10:21 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on July 03, 2013, 02:57:31 PM
Her lawyer wasn't in attendance when she was beaten up obviously. Leonor also said that she saw Amaral standing in the background.

She has also been convicted for perjury I believe.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #205 on: July 03, 2013, 03:19:46 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on July 03, 2013, 02:57:31 PM
Her lawyer wasn't in attendance when she was beaten up obviously. Leonor also said that she saw Amaral standing in the background.

Cipriano's lawyer was there when she gave her statement, seeming under no duress and displaying no injuries.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #206 on: July 03, 2013, 03:56:28 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 03, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
Cipriano's lawyer was there when she gave her statement, seeming under no duress and displaying no injuries.

When she gave her statement? Was her lawyer there during the entire interrogation involving the alleged slippery-stair incident?
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Offline Jazzy

Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #207 on: July 03, 2013, 04:10:39 PM »
Quote from: icabodcrane on July 03, 2013, 08:00:48 AM
I  really don't like these spurious rejections of legitimate questions

I understand that it is a classic propaganda technique used to  delegitimize an opponent in order to  to avoid addressing the substance of the argument  ....  and I see that Redblossom is frequently  made the ad hominem goal that obscures the opportunity for  opponents to be heard respectfully in any debate


I don't like it at all

Ad hominem? A simple "pardon" ? Do you understand "Ot doegwtting the worlds media, silly"  then?
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AnneGuedes

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #208 on: July 03, 2013, 04:14:16 PM »
Again unfortunate Leonor Cipriano, tortured for the greatest satisfaction of the fierce opponents to the criminal PJ monsters !
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AnneGuedes

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Re: The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.
« Reply #209 on: July 03, 2013, 04:17:50 PM »
Quote from: Jazzy on July 03, 2013, 04:10:39 PM
Ad hominem? A simple "pardon" ? Do you understand "Ot doegwtting the worlds media, silly"  then?
Very well : Not forgetting the worlds media, silly
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