The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.

[Redblossom]

Jeez, there were no "19 out of 20 DNA markers" - there were 19 out of THIRTY-SEVEN from between 3-5 different people. If, after FIVE years since files were released, people can't even get that basic FACT straight, question is if they've read the files at all.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

jeez, no one said there were 19/20 markers in the results, too difficult  for you go understand? The number referred to was what the PT AUTHORITIES will accept as PROOF, specsavers  still await you Mrs B, do go make your appointment pdq luv

[Mrs. B]

Jeez, anti McCann have been spreading lies about the 15 out of 19 DNA markers for ages so don't come & say nobody says it. It's as false now as was then. You implied that the McCann's were lucky not to have been charged in Portugal due to their stringent requirements, but that's a lie as NOBODY would get charged in Portugal or anywhere else based on 15 out of 37 alleles, as Carana correctly pointed out.

[Carana]

You need to go to Specsavers dear, no one said there was 19/20 markers, try rereading, the ref to 19/20 was in regard to the PORTUGUESE AUTHORITIES REQUIREMENTS, which is ALOT MORE than MOST COUNTRIES, which means the PT authorities are STRICTER on *evidence*,  hopefully you GET it NOW

 


and after you have  managed to do that, i wont give you a clue,  will let you work it out for yourself, im sure youre intelligent enough to reread, then reread that its a fact that 15 out of 19 of madeleines dna markers were found, this is a technical fact, whether it was mixed or not is another matter, the fact remains the FSS could  NOT rule it out that they were hers

People get so muddled over this.

The results showed 15 out of 37 alleles which may have belonged to her or to a combination of 3-5 people  in that mix. 

Even if there had been a full match to her profile, it still wouldn't mean anything: her belongings would have been in that car at some point.

If there had been any human post-mortem substances found, with a match to her profile, that would have been a different matter, but there weren't any.

[Redblossom]

People get so muddled over this.

The results showed 15 out of 37 alleles which may have belonged to her or to a combination of 3-5 people  in that mix. 

Even if there had been a full match to her profile, it still wouldn't mean anything: her belongings would have been in that car at some point.

bloodied ones?

maybe...as for post mortem, why did the FSS not check or report back on rebelos urgent request for them to check hairs if they had death banding?

[sadie]

bloodied ones?

maybe...as for post mortem, why did the FSS not check or report back on rebelos urgent request for them to check hairs if they had death banding?

15 out of 37 alleles, Red .... not 19/20.  try getting your facts straight.

Bloodied ones?  What ever are you going on about gal? 

You are NOT insinuating that Madeleines blood was in the car, or in the apartment are you?

[Redblossom]

Material tested was from a BLOOD DOGs findings ergo BLOOD do keep up, and stop lying i never said 19/20 was found, yawn and goodbye
 

[sadie]

Material tested was from a BLOOD DOGs findings ergo BLOOD do keep up, and stop lying i never said 19/20 was found, yawn and goodbye
 

Post #230
Quote from: Jazzy on July 04, 2013, 05:39:06 AM
[quoye]Absolutely, no concrete evidence. They were never arrested. End of story.[/quote]

Red

yea, thats what I said, no *concrete* evidence but plenty of *circumstantial*, if they were involved they were damn lucky that the portuguese have more rigorous standards for arrest and charge, including number of dna markers 19/20 IIRC

Heavy intimation about 19/20 markers.  Only 19 out of 37 found.  So you rate that as plenty of "circumstatial " evidence do you?

Wouldn't want you on a jury.

[Redblossom]

Ref to 19/20 was about the PJ REQUIREMENTS, and nothing else,  the PJ require MORE STRINGENT PROOF than, say, eg UK USA and others, do go SPECSAVERS, they await you.....zzzzzzz
 


Byeeeeee

[sadie]

19/20 markers put in such a way that the rapid reader thinks that is the number found ... as shown by Mrs B's response and Caranas response too

It is a kind of trickery Red.  not nice at all

... but there you go!  That's our Red

[Redblossom]

19/20 markers put in such a way that the rapid reader thinks that is the number found ... as shown by Mrs B's response and Caranas response too

It is a kind of trickery Red.  not nice at all

... but there you go!  That's our Red

learn to read slower and comprehend then instead  of having knee jerk accusatory reactions,my ref to 19/20 markers required was entirely to do with stringency  of evidence, its only in your warped imagination and obviously wishful thnking that I was trying to trick anyone at all into thinking is was the number found, and AS IF anyone here at all is not au fait with the numbers.

Its a kind of skewing of what others say, putting words into their mouth, not nice at all, but thats our sadie. Do have a lovely day though.
 

[sadie]

learn to read slower and comprehend then instead  of having knee jerk accusatory reactions,my ref to 19/20 markers required was entirely to do with stringency  of evidence, its only in your warped imagination and obviously wishful thnking that I was trying to trick anyone at all into thinking is was the number found, and AS IF anyone here at all is not au fait with the numbers.

Its a kind of skewing of what others say, putting words into their mouth, not nice at all, but thats our sadie. Do have a lovely day though.
 

Oh, I thought that I had responded to this.

Just to say that there were only about 4, maybe 5 pros, on at that time and 3 of us managed to misunderstand the wording, somehow.    Both the other pros are extremely intelligent peeps