Could there have been an accomplice following behind whom Tanner didn't see?

[Eleanor]

Personally, I think someone nipped in the gate and went up the steps and in the patio door with their head well down.  And then opened the window from inside for any number of reasons.  I can think of three off the top of my head.
Handed over the child to another person and left by the front door, going off in another direction to the man seen by Jane Tanner.

[John]

The trouble is, on that scenario, there is nothing inside, or outsideby the window, to indicate there was anyone there.

Obviously Stephen.  You don't think professional abductors were going to leave their calling card in the form of fingerprints or DNA now do you?

[DCI]

Personally, I think someone nipped in the gate and went up the steps and in the patio door with their head well down.  And then opened the window from inside for any number of reasons.  I can think of three off the top of my head.
Handed over the child to another person and left by the front door, going off in another direction to the man seen by Jane Tanner.

 

[John]

Sorry, but they would have no idea whatsoever if the kids bedroom window was locked, IF *they* were watching the only thing thry would know is that the patio doors were left unlocked

The rest of your post is all speculation John

Don't talk nonsense Redblossom.  These people know everything.  They would have checked to see if the shutter and window were open before making heir move.

[John]

Personally, I think someone nipped in the gate and went up the steps and in the patio door with their head well down.  And then opened the window from inside for any number of reasons.  I can think of three off the top of my head.
Handed over the child to another person and left by the front door, going off in another direction to the man seen by Jane Tanner.

Quite possibly Eleanor.  They could have been watching Gerry exit after his 9.05pm check.

[Eleanor]

Quite possibly Eleanor.  They could have been watching Gerry exit after his 9.05pm check.

the abductor could have been in the appartment before Gerry arrived to check at 9pm.  It was possible to hide in the wardrobe or behind the door.  Gerry was hardly expecting someone to be there.

[AnneGuedes]

The only interest of abductor2 is to explain the opened shutters/window/curtains.
But, John, the window wasn't large enough to pass a child in the horizontal position.
And remember is was chilly and windy !
JW, who wasn't far behind JT, saw no one, heard no car.

[Redblossom]

Don't talk nonsense Redblossom.  These people know everything.  They would have checked to see if the shutter and window were open before making heir move.

My point was they might have known the patio doors were unlocked  IF they had been watchng movements,but would have had no idea at all if the kids bedroom window was locked, or unlocked, so your original comment about an unlocked shutter and window to the kids bedroom as ideal, is speculative, as they could NOT have known, ergo my post was not nonsense

As I said before, why would the bedroom window be ideal as opposed to the patio doors, besides, leaving more evidence climbing through a window, the patio doors side was pitchblack and no one could see ehat was going on there, as opposed to a well lit front door in a public place

[faithlilly]

Quite possibly Eleanor.  They could have been watching Gerry exit after his 9.05pm check.

But Gerry thought they were in the apartment during his check ?

[AnneGuedes]

My point was they might have known the patio doors were unlocked  IF they had been watchng movements,

There was no sighting of someone watching at night, unique pertinent time to observe if this was pre-planned as Mrs B thinks.

[AnneGuedes]

Think you might have that the wrong way round Red??   The front door wasn't by any means public and in fact was well hidden within a recess in the building and behind a reasonably high wall whereas the patio was lit by both the resort ambient lighting and that coming from inside the apartment.

The curtains were shut, avoiding light from a low lamp to come out and there was no light on the balcony. The door was opening on an always lit corridor.

[Angelo222]

But Gerry thought they were in thye apartment during his check ?

Seems he thought lots but didn't always get it right like the side of the road he was on while chatting to Jessie."

[sadie]

The curtains were shut, avoiding light from a low lamp to come out and there was no light on the balcony. The door was opening on an always lit corridor.

The curtains were shut, Anne?

Have you ever managed to exit a patio sliding door and anywhere near pull the curtains to?  Cos i cant do that.  My bet is that they were three quarters (approx) shut

[Angelo222]

Thanx for confirming the fact that the front door was effectively hidden from all but those who wished to enter Sadie. 

As far as the lighting of the patio at apartment 5a was concerned just ask yourself the question.  Could the apartment be seen from the direction of the tapas at night and as the photos which have been posted by Sadie previously show..... it can.  Thus it was lit by ambient light.

[Angelo222]

There was no sighting of someone watching at night, unique pertinent time to observe if this was pre-planned as Mrs B thinks.

Didn't a member of staff catch someone watching the apartment from a nearby stairwell?