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Offline Carana

Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2013, 05:44:29 PM »
They're high profile persons. Your question was Do you have any particular high-profile captive in mind?

Yes... But in response to your reply, I wondered if you thought that there might have a close connection between "high-profile" captives anywhere in the world and the child's disappearance.

If not, I'm not sure that I follow your earlier comment:


When a high profile captive is at stake, liberation is for evident reasons always breaking news.

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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2013, 05:50:24 PM »

If not, I'm not sure that I follow your earlier comment:


When a high profile captive is at stake, liberation is for evident reasons always breaking news.

I'm not sure I understand why you didn't.

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Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2013, 05:58:41 PM »
Has this got anything to do with the topic?

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Offline sadie

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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2013, 06:05:19 PM »
We are satisfied that our review has now progressed to a position where we have identified 38 persons of interest. These individuals are from a number of European countries and we are now at an advanced stage of dialogue with each country. Over the coming months we will be conducting assertive enquiries, with the assistance of host countries to establish more information about the individuals concerned and any potential involvement.

Very very interesting .... from a number of European Countries and a very important person one other Country, I suspect

We must wait and see.


Offline Carana

Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2013, 06:11:18 PM »
Madeleine McCann: How the British led investigation will operate overseas

Scotland Yard’s decision to launch a full-scale investigation into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance from Portugal throws up a number of potential legal hurdles for detectives to overcome.

While the British police are obviously free to investigate lines of inquiry and suspects in this country, they have no jurisdiction to operate overseas.

However thanks to Mutual Legal Assistance Treaties they can request that their counterparts in other countries carry out investigative work on their behalf.

The British police would have to submit International Letters of Request to the appropriate foreign body, which in the case of Portugal is the judiciary rather than the police.

Those letters are then considered and under EU rules member states are expected to comply. 

The Metropolitan Police has already formally requested that the Crown Prosecution Service submit an International Letter of Request to the Portuguese Authorities seeking assistance in obtaining evidence relating to lines of enquiry they wish to pursue.

This has been done with the full support of the British Government and the Portuguese authorities have already signalled their willingness to cooperate.


As the investigation develops it is possible Scotland Yard may wish certain persons of interest to be brought in for questioning or to provide fresh witness statements.

While it would be the home police force that carried out such activities, the Met has already requested that a small team of British officers are on the ground to observe and assist in that process.

In preparation for today’s announcement, senior officers from Operation Grange made 16 visits to Portugal in order to ensure that any potential difficulties were ironed out.

If a British suspect is ever charged with abduction or murder in the case, the law allows them to be tried at the Old Bailey in London, even if the alleged crime took place overseas.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10159992/Madeleine-McCann-How-the-British-led-investigation-will-operate-overseas.html


The positive news seems to indeed be that a solution has been found to the Catch-22 dilemma, and that the two countries are cooperating as best they can.



Offline Eleanor

Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2013, 06:12:30 PM »
I think this is really good news, and a huge step forward.  And Scotland Yard probably already know who they are after.  Possibly more than one person.
Will the guilty parties run?  That would be good.

Offline Carana

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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2013, 06:18:41 PM »
Some of the 38 may just be people of interest who they'd like to interview for clarification. It doesn't mean that they are suspects, but may - or may not - have useful information and haven't come forward so far for whatever reason.


Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2013, 06:18:55 PM »
I think this is really good news, and a huge step forward.  And Scotland Yard probably already know who they are after.  Possibly more than one person.
Will the guilty parties run?  That would be good.

Or kill the child, if she is not already dead, because they feel the net is closing in ? Would that be 'good' Eleanor because it is certainly likely.
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Offline sadie

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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2013, 06:22:13 PM »
Or kill the child, if she is not already dead, because they feel the net is closing in ? Would that be 'good' Eleanor because it is certainly likely.
That post expresses you so well Faith.  8(8-))

Offline sadie

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« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2013, 06:26:36 PM »
I think this is really good news, and a huge step forward.  And Scotland Yard probably already know who they are after.  Possibly more than one person.
Will the guilty parties run?  That would be good.

No I want them caught and dealt with.

Broadmoor or regular jail ... for a long time

Keep the children safe.


Offline Eleanor

Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2013, 06:29:46 PM »
No I want them caught and dealt with.

Broadmoor or regular jail ... for a long time

Keep the children safe.

They can't run far, Sadie.  And I doubt that Madeleine is still with the original abductors.

Offline Carana

Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2013, 07:14:41 PM »
I find the news to be a step forward in a case involving a complex legal situation.

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Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2013, 07:46:37 PM »
-38 people the Met want to talk to? That only means potential witnesses or holders of potentially useful information or potential suspects, NOT as the media is reporting widely that there are 38 suspects. Why didnt Redwood/the Met make that clear?

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Over the coming months we will be conducting assertive enquiries, with the assistance of host countries to establish more information about the individuals concerned and any potential involvement.

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@guardian they are NOT suspects, quoted as 'persons of interest'. Please report the facts..& show restraint, speculation may harm enquiry.
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The 38 people identified by OpGrange - 12 of which are British nationals are NOT suspects but persons of interest - significant difference


-Can anyone also please provide a source for the widely reported *Mccanns and friends have been completely  eliminated* media stories? As opposed to the *Mccanns and friends are not in the list of 38*

-Also does anyone know who the SEVEN private detective agencies the Mccanns used are, as reported on Channel  4 news tonight? And as posted by the Met on their website?

 - So basically, no new news, same story as two months ago except the number of people of interest has gone up and the British authorities have sent an official request to ask the Portuguese to help them in Portugal and allow a small team of UK officers to be based in Portugal while they get stuck into the new investigation


- And Redwood saying they have no *clear definitive evidence of death* means there is no body, so the *possibility* remains she is alive
Good news overall though, its MOVEMENT
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Offline Jazzy

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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2013, 08:25:25 PM »
The Maccanns are not considered as suspects in this new announcement. Just saying. Dogs don't lie, questions are not answered, and there is a reason for that, no evidence.

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Re: Met Police say 38 persons of interest including 12 UK nationals.
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2013, 08:30:34 PM »
Maybe the McCann's will be making a contribution to this heroic effort by the Metropolitan Police since after all isn't that why the Madeleine fund was established in the first place??

Pigs may fly, they will keep the money for* awareness campaigns* during and if SY get nowhere, its in the terms, they will never wrap it up, give it away for other causes until the perpetrator is brought to justice, so technically, they may reuse PIs if SY fail to bring a closure