The Sergei Malinka connection with Robert Murat and the case

[bros]

I cant stop staring at the nose shape of this 2 pictures(one without sunglasses)... Is it only me?

[sadie]

I cant stop staring at the nose shape of this 2 pictures(one without sunglasses)... Is it only me?

Well observed.  The nose of the RH man and the man in the lower photo are very similar.  Also the mouth shape between these two is quite similar.  The upper lip is a bit short, altho not disimilar .... but the rest of the face doesn't match so well.  I would be open minded about the two images.  Could be maybe.

IMO, the LH face doesn't match either image, except maybe the hairlines are a little alike.  But then it is difficult to judge with those big glasses on.

Go on, please remind me who the two top images are of.  I have forgotten

[bros]

This person was  observed by 3 different witnesses on 3-4 occasions standing in front of McCain apartment for some time looking toward the patio door of the apartment just days before the abduction in prolonged interval. One of the witness old person with his wife even try to say hello to him without response, he said seems he was to busy looking at the apartment .

Another girl who knows area very well because she lives there with her grandparents came forward with a statement the she saw him twice,  first time on street where the old person previously pointed and again second time leaning on the fence of the apartment from the south side while she was walking her dog this was different day.

[sadie]

This person was  observed by 3 different witnesses on 3-4 occasions standing in front of McCain apartment for some time looking toward the patio door of the apartment just days before the abduction in prolonged interval. One of the witness old person with his wife even try to say hello to him without response, he said seems he was to busy looking at the apartment .

Another girl who knows area very well because she lives there with her grandparents came forward with a statement the she saw him twice,  first time on street where the old person previously pointed and again second time leaning on the fence of the apartment from the south side while she was walking her dog this was different day.
   

Thanks Bros

You have brought it back.

[misty]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERGEY-MALINKA.htm#p6p1459

*Snip*

--- The first contact with ROBERT, as already said, was in last summer, to create the web page, and this occurred near the Church of the Light [the church in PdL], where there was only ROBERT and the witness, he believes at l0H00/11H00. He now alleges that RUI was not present personally, he only gave Robert's phone number to SM. The creation of the Internet page took about three weeks to a month. ROBERT paid him '3000 in total, in two equal installments. The first part of the payment was at the beginning of the work and the second when completed.
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I've often wondered what sort of webpage costs 3000Euros to set up & why Murat would have paid that sort of money to someone he'd "just been introduced to".

[Carana]

If it is true he scrubbed his hard disc that is rather a strange thing to do.

That seems to be a myth. There is nothing in the files to say that a disc had been wiped.

[Carana]

Quote from: Mr Moderator on August 11, 2013, 08:20:23 PM

    The names are Nick Legaloff, Nikolai Fedorenko and Ivan Nikolayevich Petrov.

Is there a fourth? Nikolai Ivanovitch Lobachevsky? Perhaps

That appears to be a myth propagated by Blackwatch and repeated as fact in a conspiracy site called
"The satanic elite and child abduction". 

I no longer remember where Blackwatch got the last two from, but Nick Legaloff seems to have been a  photographer. Whether his work was as a professional or or as an amateur, the photos I saw were worthy of a professional of the typical family / child portrait type.

IIRC, Malinka did his web site for him. In which case, he quite probably simply put his name at the bottom as the creator, which may have led to Blackwatch's mistaken assumption.

[Brietta]

Quote from: Mr Moderator on August 11, 2013, 08:20:23 PM

    The names are Nick Legaloff, Nikolai Fedorenko and Ivan Nikolayevich Petrov.

That appears to be a myth propagated by Blackwatch and repeated as fact in a conspiracy site called
"The satanic elite and child abduction". 

I no longer remember where Blackwatch got the last two from, but Nick Legaloff seems to have been a  photographer. Whether his work was as a professional or or as an amateur, the photos I saw were worthy of a professional of the typical family / child portrait type.

IIRC, Malinka did his web site for him. In which case, he quite probably simply put his name at the bottom as the creator, which may have led to Blackwatch's mistaken assumption.

I have been reading through search results – Malinka / Murat many of which pre-date the libel trial awards; which resulted in payment of substantial amounts in damages being paid to them and to Michaela Walczuch as a result of statements made in the press which damaged their reputations and ‘almost ruined their lives’. 

The thing which has struck me most is the difference of the treatment given to these three individuals and that meted out to the Drs McCann and their friends over the past seven years.

The British press printed unsubstatiated leaks (100% DNA et al) condemning Madeleine's parents; and both they and their lawyers must have been horrified when the true picture became clear with the publishing of the FSS results. 

The payment of damages to the McCann party is an acknowledgement that they have no case to answer, just as was the undisclosed out of court settlement made to RM by the British Sky Broadcasting Group and the agreement that Sky News should host an apology to him on its website for 12 months. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Murat#Murat

One has to ponder the mindset that allows recognition that there was no proof to substantiate the allegations made about RM, SM and MW; but disallows the fact that similarly there was no proof to substantiate the allegations made against the McCann party; and have used this anomaly in interpretaion to hound the McCann party.

[Brietta]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2794.msg176788#msg176788  Whether by accident or design - if any DNA from Robert Murat had been found in the environs of the Ocean Club apartments and 5A in particular it could be easily explained by the fact he was there accompanied by the police.
Surely a monumental error.

[faithlilly]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2794.msg176788#msg176788  Whether by accident or design - if any DNA from Robert Murat had been found in the environs of the Ocean Club apartments and 5A in particular it could be easily explained by the fact he was there accompanied by the police.
Surely a monumental error.

And the link between Smithman not existing and Murat is.......... ?

[misty]

And the link between Smithman not existing and Murat is.......... ?

The link is that attention must be diverted back to those seen in & around the OC during the time either side of the disappearance if Smithman does not exist.
There were several witnesses who reported seeing Murat in the vicinity during the hours after Madeleine disappeared, but their evidence is negated solely by his alibi - an alibi never really called into question & dissected in the same manner as the timeline of the Tapas group. Why was that?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Re: The photographs,  The guy in glasses looks like BONO from U2! and looks nothing like the other two.

There is a similarity about the nose and  ears shape.
I think we should give the story back to the McCann supporters in so far as PEOPLE are innocent until proven guilty Their favorite mantra!

This only proves that other people apart from the tapas group were on holiday and worked and lived in PDL.

So, yes witnesses will say they saw 'people' in and around the apartment and PDL  duh.

The most important witnesses in this case are those who claim to have seen her alive in the apartment...

It would seem that this is the beginning and end of the investigation, no one else claimed to have seen a live Madeline in that area, on that night, in that time frame.

Two police investigations, come back to Maddie being suspected as dead- both looking for  her body and those involved in her disappearance.

Back to the beginning boys  and girls...
 

[pegasus]

... Go on, please remind me who the two top images are of.  I have forgotten

Left photofit is definitely by witness T.Sillence (of man seen twice nearby).
The right photofit is IMO by witness C.Tranmer (of man seen leaving garden gate of probably apartment 5B).
According to those witness statements IMO both men have fair hair.

[pegasus]

The link is that attention must be diverted back to those seen in & around the OC during the time either side of the disappearance if Smithman does not exist.
There were several witnesses who reported seeing Murat in the vicinity during the hours after Madeleine disappeared, but their evidence is negated solely by his alibi - an alibi never really called into question & dissected in the same manner as the timeline of the Tapas group. Why was that?

He is cleared by much more than his mother's alibi.
This can be easily proven just by looking, for example, at ROB's testimony.
Let X be the man who ROB saw talking to GNR that night.
The GNR officers present were questioned and all said RM was definitely not there that night.
This proves that the man ROB saw that night was certainly not RM.

[misty]

He is cleared by much more than his mother's alibi.
This can be easily proven just by looking, for example, at ROB's testimony.
Let X be the man who ROB saw talking to GNR that night.
The GNR officers present were questioned and all said RM was definitely not there that night.
This proves that the man ROB saw that night was certainly not RM.

The GNR weren't there at 2230-2300 hrs, though, were they - around the times Wiltshire, Jenson & the nanny Charlotte  Pennngton allegedly saw him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-504950/British-witnesses-We-saw-blond-men-balcony-Madeleine-apartment.html


Taken from McCannfiles.com
Kate McCann DID scream 'They've taken her' claims new nanny witness Daily Mail
 
By DAN NEWLING
Last updated at 16:41pm on 25th September 2007

*Snip*
She confirmed reports from the McCanns' friends that Murat was at the scene.
 
"He was outside the lobby just before we started on our big search," she said.
 
"He was adamant that he wasn't there. But he was. He was there in the road, he was just looking. It was about 10.30. He was just watching.
 
"I didn't know his name then. But the next day he was our interpreter and I met him then. He didn't take part in the searches, but he was there."
 
Murat has insisted that he was at his home nearby throughout the evening of Madeleine's disappearance. Portuguese sources have claimed that he will soon be told that he is no longer a suspect.
 
Miss Pennington explained that she spent the rest of the evening searching for Madeleine, before finally going to bed at 4am.
 
The following afternoon she was one of the first people to give witness statements to the Portuguese police.
 
Since then, she said, she has spoken to a Portuguese detective once and to two British detectives.