The Sergei Malinka connection with Robert Murat and the case

[ShiningInLuz]

Mr Malinka is working nearby to Luz (not in IT), seems to be doing well for himself, and like the other 4 Portuguese nationals made arguidos, has remained close by and in plain sight.

I have been burned once already when publishing 'personal' details on here, supposedly in private, but immediately made public elsewhere, so I am not going to make the same mistake twice.

However, his business address and phone number are both prominent in the public domain, so I could phone him or pop in for a chat tomorrow, if the whim took me.

When folks are speculating about arguidos, this is a factor you might wish to build into the equation.

Let me see, hmmm.  I know 100% I can contact Mr Malinka.  I believe I can speak to Paulo Ribeiro.  I am not sure about Mr Murat, but I would bet that I can.  I am confident I can talk to Ricardo Rodrigues.  Mr José da Silva is different, unless I take to staking out the supermarket.  Sr Vitor dos Santos was not an arguido, but he is also an easy contact.

In fact, the only two impenetrables are Kate and Gerry McCann.

I was looking for some base information on Mr Malinka, when Google directed me to this thread.  There is a lot of rampant speculation in it, and frankly, a lot of rampant nonsense.

The simple fact is neither Mr Malinka or the other 4 Portuguese arguidos are flying under the radar.  They are still living locally, quite openly, still integrated with the local community.  Just getting on with a normal life.

[misty]

Mr Malinka is working nearby to Luz (not in IT), seems to be doing well for himself, and like the other 4 Portuguese nationals made arguidos, has remained close by and in plain sight.

I have been burned once already when publishing 'personal' details on here, supposedly in private, but immediately made public elsewhere, so I am not going to make the same mistake twice.

However, his business address and phone number are both prominent in the public domain, so I could phone him or pop in for a chat tomorrow, if the whim took me.

When folks are speculating about arguidos, this is a factor you might wish to build into the equation.

Let me see, hmmm.  I know 100% I can contact Mr Malinka.  I believe I can speak to Paulo Ribeiro.  I am not sure about Mr Murat, but I would bet that I can.  I am confident I can talk to Ricardo Rodrigues.  Mr José da Silva is different, unless I take to staking out the supermarket.  Sr Vitor dos Santos was not an arguido, but he is also an easy contact.

In fact, the only two impenetrables are Kate and Gerry McCann.

I was looking for some base information on Mr Malinka, when Google directed me to this thread.  There is a lot of rampant speculation in it, and frankly, a lot of rampant nonsense.

The simple fact is neither Mr Malinka or the other 4 Portuguese arguidos are flying under the radar.  They are still living locally, quite openly, still integrated with the local community.  Just getting on with a normal life.

Why on earth would you want to "have a chat" with any of them? Have their lives not been invaded enough by others, if they are innocent bystanders in any criminal act inflicted upon Madeleine?
You're not going to solve any crime by interfering with potential witnesses but you could be charged by the police.

[Eleanor]

Mr Malinka is working nearby to Luz (not in IT), seems to be doing well for himself, and like the other 4 Portuguese nationals made arguidos, has remained close by and in plain sight.

I have been burned once already when publishing 'personal' details on here, supposedly in private, but immediately made public elsewhere, so I am not going to make the same mistake twice.

However, his business address and phone number are both prominent in the public domain, so I could phone him or pop in for a chat tomorrow, if the whim took me.

When folks are speculating about arguidos, this is a factor you might wish to build into the equation.

Let me see, hmmm.  I know 100% I can contact Mr Malinka.  I believe I can speak to Paulo Ribeiro.  I am not sure about Mr Murat, but I would bet that I can.  I am confident I can talk to Ricardo Rodrigues.  Mr José da Silva is different, unless I take to staking out the supermarket.  Sr Vitor dos Santos was not an arguido, but he is also an easy contact.

In fact, the only two impenetrables are Kate and Gerry McCann.

I was looking for some base information on Mr Malinka, when Google directed me to this thread.  There is a lot of rampant speculation in it, and frankly, a lot of rampant nonsense.

The simple fact is neither Mr Malinka or the other 4 Portuguese arguidos are flying under the radar.  They are still living locally, quite openly, still integrated with the local community.  Just getting on with a normal life.

Does anyone wish to build anything into the equation?

And I very much doubt that any guilty party will be running for the hills.

I am not personally about to discard any of these people, but then neither are some about to discard The McCanns and their friends.

I honestly don't understand what you are talking about most of the time.

[ShiningInLuz]

Why on earth would you want to "have a chat" with any of them? Have their lives not been invaded enough by others, if they are innocent bystanders in any criminal act inflicted upon Madeleine?
You're not going to solve any crime by interfering with potential witnesses but you could be charged by the police.

Interfering with witnesses?

Goodness, what a vivid imagination you have.

[sadie]

Interfering with witnesses?

Goodness, what a vivid imagination you have.

There are some notable posters, especially on our side.   But my bet is that they will all agree that nobody produces more sound evidence in this case than misty.

She is a great example to us all.


And IMO, you would be unwise to ignore what she is saying as someone, especially as you are a Brit, given Portuguese Law.  And especially as you seem to have made your life over there

Perhaps you should thank her, SIL, rather than sneer at her?
Despite differences, none of us would like to see you at the hands of the Portuguese Judiciary

[ShiningInLuz]

There are some notable posters, especially on our side.   But my bet is that they will all agree that nobody produces more sound evidence in this case than misty.

She is a great example to us all.


And IMO, you would be unwise to ignore what she is saying as someone, especially as you are a Brit, given Portuguese Law.  And especially as you seem to have made your life over there

Perhaps you should thank her, SIL, rather than sneer at her?
Despite differences, none of us would like to see you at the hands of the Portuguese Judiciary

I live in Luz, at least for the moment.

I will speak to other citizens of Luz as and when I choose.

The idea that I should be dictated to from Little Britain is ludicrous.

[sadie]

I live in Luz, at least for the moment.

I will speak to other citizens of Luz as and when I choose.

The idea that I should be dictated to from Little Britain is ludicrous.

No it is not little Britain; break the Portugues Law and it will be the Portuguese Judicial Authorities who will come and get you, if they so wish.

We have all seen Justice at the hands of the PJ, most noticeably in the cases of Michael Cook and Leonor Cipriano, but there must be scores of other cases that we have never heard about..


Be careful SIL.  None of us want you hurt.

[stephen25000]

This is rapidly going off topic and becoming personal.

Posters are reminded to stick to the thread title.

[misty]

@ShiningInLuz

Sometimes I think you forget what you have already told us.


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8356.msg415811#msg415811
*snipped*


It is my understanding that when Sergey Murat was made an arguido, his mother's car was searched by the dogs.  His own car from 2007 had been torched long before 2014.  There is no point in me asking how that search was conducted, because I very much doubt that Sergey or his mother would have been permitted to attend.

I cannot even get confirmation that the car was indeed searched, as the family refuse to discuss the case.

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Please - put yourself in the position of all the innocent people whose privacy has already been invaded by us discussing the case on the internet. Keep this "world" away from real life & just show some respect to those who have had their names & faces splashed all over the media simply because of association with May 3rd in Luz.

[Alice Purjorick]

@ShiningInLuz

Sometimes I think you forget what you have already told us.


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8356.msg415811#msg415811
*snipped*


It is my understanding that when Sergey Murat was made an arguido, his mother's car was searched by the dogs.  His own car from 2007 had been torched long before 2014.  There is no point in me asking how that search was conducted, because I very much doubt that Sergey or his mother would have been permitted to attend.

I cannot even get confirmation that the car was indeed searched, as the family refuse to discuss the case.

                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please - put yourself in the position of all the innocent people whose privacy has already been invaded by us discussing the case on the internet. Keep this "world" away from real life & just show some respect to those who have had their names & faces splashed all over the media simply because of association with May 3rd in Luz.

I'll drink to that.

[ShiningInLuz]

@ShiningInLuz

Sometimes I think you forget what you have already told us.


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8356.msg415811#msg415811
*snipped*


It is my understanding that when Sergey Murat was made an arguido, his mother's car was searched by the dogs.  His own car from 2007 had been torched long before 2014.  There is no point in me asking how that search was conducted, because I very much doubt that Sergey or his mother would have been permitted to attend.

I cannot even get confirmation that the car was indeed searched, as the family refuse to discuss the case.

                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please - put yourself in the position of all the innocent people whose privacy has already been invaded by us discussing the case on the internet. Keep this "world" away from real life & just show some respect to those who have had their names & faces splashed all over the media simply because of association with May 3rd in Luz.

The contact that I have at the moment in the Malinka family made it clear that discussion of the case was not going to happen. I respected that as indeed I had to.  It is not as if I can force anyone to talk to me about it. 

That contact was not Sergey.  Should Sergey decline to talk about it, I would not have an option, again because I cannot enforce discussion.  However, it is not for those sitting in Britain to determine what the protagonists in Portugal should do.

Robert Murat gave an interview.  Paulo Ribeiro gave an interview.  Vitor dos Santos gave an interview.  You may not be interested in such people's opinion about what happened to them, but I am.

[ShiningInLuz]

Sergey Malinka's Audi A4 was fire-bombed in 25 April Street in March 2008.  Fala - talk!

For those not interested in details, that type of Audi A4 was manufactured in the years 1992 to 1997.  So it was 11 to 16 years old at the time it was crisped.

For those interested in the details, please see shininginluz.wordpress.com

[misty]

Sergey Malinka's Audi A4 was fire-bombed in 25 April Street in March 2008.  Fala - talk!

For those not interested in details, that type of Audi A4 was manufactured in the years 1992 to 1997.  So it was 11 to 16 years old at the time it was crisped.

For those interested in the details, please see shininginluz.wordpress.com

What makes you think it was also his van which was torched in Dec 2006?

[ShiningInLuz]

What makes you think it was also his van which was torched in Dec 2006?

The report suggests it was his van.

Personally, I have no evidence of two previous fire-bombings in which I would place any credence whatsoever.

[misty]

The report suggests it was his van.

Personally, I have no evidence of two previous fire-bombings in which I would place any credence whatsoever.

How did you deduce that from "a young male Portuguese resident"?