Author Topic: Trees cut down and floodlight fitted at apartment 5a after the abduction.  (Read 10432 times)

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Offline sadie

A look at how the trees and lighting at apartment 5A have been altered since May 2007.
 
[With thanks to Bonny of J.A.T.Y.K.2  for originally sorting the images out]

Also showing just how hidden the front door had been.




Looking from the north-east, three photos of the same Jane Tanner /  Apartment 5A corner

2011



JT Corner looking in a SW direction.   Corner and car park sides denuded of trees around 5A by May 2011.

The wall on this J.T. corner is really high.  Well above Jane Tanners head. 





 

Start at 11.00,  observe from 11.30 the height of the front garden wall to 5A.  Jane is tall and it towers above her head.  The feet of anyone standing by the front door to 5A, would be roughly level with Jane Tanners head.  Such is the difference in levels.

See 11.55 thru to past 12.30.  Jane Tanner crying.  Deeply upset with herself for not having realised that she witnessed Madeleine being taken and failed to stop bundleman.

Do you honestly believe that she did not see bundleman after witnessing the emotion there as she feels she let Madeleine down.?







Same corner prior to removal of trees.  Photo presumably taken  in 2007.   These trees were healthily growing in June/July 2010 when I visited.... and very beautiful.  The evening of May 3rd was very gusty (20mph).  The branches and leaves would have been dancing, even thrashing at times.

The front door to 5A is behind the wall above the windscreen / roof-rack of the car







Same corner prior to removal of trees .  They looked quite like this when I saw them..   These trees were healthily growing in June/July 2010 when I visited.... and very beautiful.  The evening of May 3rd, 2007 was very gusty (20mph).  The branches and leaves would have been dancing, even thrashing at times, so difficult to see thru any minor gaps.  No body walking would try and peer thru into blackness; they would be looking towards light and the way they were going.  There was no light illuminating the window in 2010.  It was either switched off or broken.






Viewed from the north, across the road from 5A showing all the beautiful dense trees stretching along the wall that were cut down ready for Pat Browns photograph




 

Viewed from the SE.  JT corner again.
In 2009 the trees overhanging the pavement JT and everyone walked up.  The wall underneath the trees is considerably higher than JT. 
The last window on the right is kitchen window.  The kitchen  adjoins the front door / hallway in 5A, which are on the other side of the kitchen, hidden behind the trees and wall.

Offline sadie

Part 2  Images with thanks to Bonny and J.A.T.Y.K.2
And Joana Morais




Comparison between   Viewed from across the road

May 2007  beautiful trees lining the wall But NO search light ... and ....
May 2011  trees were decimated and a whopping great vulgar search light fitted  (note: The photographs show that there was no light here at the time of the abduction, in early May 2007




Finally Pat Browns photograph.  A professional photograph; almost without doubt not by Pat Brown herself.

Such changes since May 3rd 2007.
All the OC Block 5A trees removed and a mighty searchlight installed giving uninterrupted vision and illumination.  Only now, with all the trees chopped down is the front door visible, even now poorly lit whereas before it was in almost total darkness.  In 2010 when I visited, there were no lights lit.  It was in darkness.



The very interesting thing really shows when you zoom in and magnify the photo  x400.
See the drive in?  To the left of that all the trees have been chopped down.  To the right of that they have been left untouched.  They are still standing.

So the line of trees in front of the tapas apartments, were purposely cut down for Pat Browns photo? ... and the ones in front of the other half of the black left standing.




Amaral has insisted that the only way in, or out, is via that window. 

Seems, this is an attempt to "prove" that with the window being "so overlooked" and "bathed in light", no abductor would dare to go in, or out, that way.?

Seems it is an attempt to falsely prove that the Mccanns set up a "pretend abduction" and that * Madeleine died in that apartment *?

All so that he can win his libel case against The Mccanns?



In my book that is what could be called "falsifying the evidence", or in other words CHEATING


Only a theory, but it fits, unless someone can see flaws in it



Why was the one half of OC denuded of trees?   Why was a professional photo taken of a changed OC?  Why did Amaral make so much of Pat Brown?  Why did Tony Bennett make so much of her too?

Edited because someone saw a flaw in it ... in order to put it right.

Offline sadie

The images  are freely available on the general internet, but they were grouped together on one forum especially, so it was a sensible way to more  easiley assemble them for this thread.  It is good manners to thank the person who originally assembled them, just as I also thanked Joana Morais.

I have quoted NO words from any forum; they are all my own..

So Blacksmiths words and images are Ok with you, are they Red?  But you want to get rid of images just because I have acknowledged the person I took them from.

Are you trying to remove this thread then?  Too close to the truth maybe?

Rachel Granada

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Why is Brown being given the oxygen of publicity? She is a no-mark, a nothing.  She has no relevant qualifications.

I must say that her PDL visit was comedy gold - it gave a lot of laughs to many people.  The highlight was her meet with Bennett in bus shelter... Bennett's foul mauve jumper gave many people many laughs.

Brown made a complete fool of herself with her PDL visit.

Offline sadie

So what do you think, red, about the trees being cut down?  A professional photograph being taken with a huge lamp illuminating the scene.  A lamp that was only fitted after May4th 2007 (after the abduction) and wasn't switched on when I was there in 2010  Then Pat Brown coming over to great fanfare; big photo opportunity with Bennett and Amaral .. and much publicity.

To produce a professional photo showing how overlooked the tapas apartments are now that everything has changed?

Why do you think only half the block (the tapas half) was changed by removing the trees?  leaving the other half as was?

Offline sadie


How much did it cost to destroy those beautiful trees?  Who paid for that and P. B's flight to come over?  Then a professional photo, also expensive.

There has to be a reason for destroying those lovely trees and making block 5 lop sided; for spending a that money

Can you think of any?

Offline Benice

Sadie, IMO Mark Warner had the trees removed, as a result of the UK police comments that 5A was virtually a would-be intruder's paradise - not only because it was next to 2 streets but because of all the shrubs and trees which were so close to it, both at the front and the rear of the property, and which kept much of it hidden from view.    And also of course because of what happened to Madeleine.

I don't think Pat Brown had anything to do with it - but because of her abysmal lack of research she didn't know when she visited PdL that the view of 5A that she saw, bore no resemblance to how it was on the night Madeleine was abducted.

Her only achievement as a result of her visit to PdL was to make a complete fool of herself.
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Lyall

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Why did Amaral make so much of Pat Brown?  Why did Tony Bennett make so much of her too?
I can answer that for you I think. Because she's a professional writer. Simple as that.

Offline Lace

Pat Brown made a fool of herself saying the window would have been in view,  then changed her mind when it was pointed out the trees had been cut down.

Offline Carana

I'm not sure when the projector was was installed, but it was there in May 2010




From http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Jeanne_d_Arc.htm

Offline Carana

Sadie, thanks for posting the photos.

I seriously doubt that those measures had anything to do with Pat Brown's visit.

I agree with Benice that the OC is likely to have taken the decision to provide more security.

Evidently, people who see what that facade looks like now imagine that that is what was like back then - which is not the case, and is misleading.


Offline Carana

I can answer that for you I think. Because she's a professional writer. Simple as that.

It might have helped if Pat Brown had done a bit of research.

The photo that she posted to demonstrate how the window and door would have been in view from across the road does not correspond to the conditions in 2007.

Offline Carana

Interesting that the pic in Amaral's book shows the nice new spotlight projector...



Offline faithlilly

Interesting that the pic in Amaral's book shows the nice new spotlight projector...




Thank you Carana. Your photographs show very well how noticeable the open window must have been to anyone entering the car park, and with a lamp on in the living room and it's light coming through the bedroom because of the open door it must have been even more visible in the dark.
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Offline Carana

Thank you Carana. Your photographs show very well how noticeable the open window must have been to anyone entering the car park, and with a lamp on in the living room and it's light coming through the bedroom because of the open door it must have been even more visible in the dark.


Erm... that projector casting light on the window area wasn't there in early May 2007.

I find that night shot and the caption in Amaral's book misleading.