The sad mantra about neglect

[gilet]

That is the key.

When the only evidence provided is shambolic (or deliberate?) mis-quotation, it is difficult to take a poster seriously. For her other claims there is, so far, no evidence at all.

 

[gilet]

Yes, the AG report says "they lost the possibility to prove" and not "they failed to prove".
But how can you refuse something you're bound to accept by law ?

They accepted the reconstruction which is what the passage refers to.

They were willing to return for that reconstruction.

And I have stated this previously too, its a great shame that a reconstruction was refused by Amaral and his team when it would have actually have been of greatest value. It was in fact the PJ who denied the McCanns the earliest possibility to be seen as innocent by their denial of a reconstruction on grounds that it would be bad for tourism.

[Carana]

They accepted the reconstruction which is what the passage refers to.

They were willing to return for that reconstruction.

And I have stated this previously too, its a great shame that a reconstruction was refused by Amaral and his team when it would have actually have been of greatest value. It was in fact the PJ who denied the McCanns the earliest possibility to be seen as innocent by their denial of a reconstruction on grounds that it would be bad for tourism.

I have never understood why a reconstruction wasn't done when the majority of people were there (tourists, OC staff, etc).

In the early days, they could have said that it was to check out the exact times that a predator could have taken her. They didn't need to say that it was to check who may have been telling the truth or who they suspected of lying.

Of course, there would have been media cameras in the early days.

So what?

After all the "leaks", I'm not really surprised that some people became suspicious of appearing in the media all over again.

[AnneGuedes]

It was in fact the PJ who denied the McCanns the earliest possibility to be seen as innocent by their denial of a reconstruction on grounds that it would be bad for tourism.

Any source for that ?

[DCI]

Any source for that ?

Amaral explained that when Madeleine disappeared police didn't organise a reconstruction in Praia da Luz "because there were so many journalists on the ground" – and once the heat had died down, "the McCanns refused. They said any reconstruction should be made by actors – but the whole reason for reconstructions is to use the people involved, and see where their stories don’t add up!"

http://www.algarve123.com/en/Articles/2-1403/%E2%80%9CJustice_works_in_Silence%E2%80%9D?mid=54

Amaral lies again, the McCann's did not refuse!

[AnneGuedes]

Amaral explained that when Madeleine disappeared police didn't organise a reconstruction in Praia da Luz "because there were so many journalists on the ground" – and once the heat had died down, "the McCanns refused. They said any reconstruction should be made by actors – but the whole reason for reconstructions is to use the people involved, and see where their stories don’t add up!"

http://www.algarve123.com/en/Articles/2-1403/%E2%80%9CJustice_works_in_Silence%E2%80%9D?mid=54

Amaral lies again, the McCann's did not refuse!

I reckon you decide when Mr Amaral says the truth or lies !

[DCI]

I reckon you decide when Mr Amaral says the truth or lies !

I don't need to, he's got a conviction to prove it!

[Redblossom]

I don't need to, he's got a conviction to prove it!

does he? Wh-t you mean in the sme way as leonora cipriano has a conviction for murder? Which brings u out in hives for SOME reason
 

She has been  convicted of perjury regarding being tortured, aka, she lied

[AnneGuedes]

I don't need to, he's got a conviction to prove it!

Such a statement gives the creeps... It shows how some mentalities haven't evolved since the middle age. What are sanctions for ?

[Jean-Pierre]

The moment Amaral stepped over the line, and wrote a book about the case (using his former position as a policeman coordinating the case to gain credibility), he lost any protection or privilege afforded in law to protect police officers from being sued.

By using his book pubically to accuse the McCanns of committing a crime (thereby in effect pursuing a vendetta against them in relation to a crime he was unable to solve) he was liable to legal action. 

He is thus author of whatever may befall him.   

[Carana]

Such a statement gives the creeps... It shows how some mentalities haven't evolved since the middle age. What are sanctions for ?

To bring practices in line with the lofty ideals of a democratic legal system?

[AnneGuedes]

The moment Amaral stepped over the line, and wrote a book about the case (using his former position as a policeman coordinating the case to gain credibility), he lost any protection or privilege afforded in law to protect police officers from being sued.

By using his book pubically to accuse the McCanns of committing a crime (thereby in effect pursuing a vendetta against them in relation to a crime he was unable to solve) he was liable to legal action. 

He is thus author of whatever may befall him.   

What are you talking about ? Mr Amaral wasn't convicted in the McCann case. The notion of vendetta is mediterranean, it doesn't exist in Portugal.

[Carana]

What are you talking about ? Mr Amaral wasn't convicted in the McCann case. The notion of vendetta is mediterranean, it doesn't exist in Portugal.

What's it called in Portugal? Defending one's dignity / honour?

[AnneGuedes]

To bring practices in line with the lofty ideals of a democratic legal system?

If penal sanctions could do that, we would know it !
I think the objective is to maintain the established order, i.e to repair the disorder produced by infractions and protect the individuals who constitute the social body, perpetrators included.
If it wasn't so, then justice wouldn't be justice (beyond particular interests), but vengeance. Like we see in the vendetta phenomenon, vengeance calls vengeance and threatens the social tissue with chaos.

[AnneGuedes]

What's it called in Portugal? Defending one's dignity / honour?

What's it called in the UK ?