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Offline DCI

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2013, 04:17:27 PM »
LOL

some mbes are idiots but the british police recommended the dogs to help in the scenario of death

They were tasked by mr g to do a report on possible death/murder of madeleine mccann, as the PJ had worked on abduction only until then, it threw no leads so it was time for  a new stage

Sorry i can never remember mr gs name or how to spell it

This is him and what the british press had to say

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/i-hope-mr-robert-mendick-will-die-soon.html

That is not the true article, nor does the article say i-hope-mr-robert-mendick-will-die-soon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7384911/Home-Office-launches-secret-review-into-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #106 on: July 28, 2013, 04:22:46 PM »
That is not the true article, nor does the article say i-hope-mr-robert-mendick-will-die-soon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7384911/Home-Office-launches-secret-review-into-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html

paulo reiss blog did say that, as for the telegraph article, mendick said exactly that, that an obstacle has been  removed,referring to his death,  its documented and  captured, end of
nasty old scrunt wasnt he?
mendick of course
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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2013, 04:32:03 PM »
Home Office launches secret review into Madeleine McCann's disappearance
The Home Office has secretly begun a review that could lead to a fresh police inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

 By Robert Mendick
9:00PM GMT 06 Mar 2010

The move follows the release of 2,000 pages of evidence last week which Portuguese detectives are accused of having failed to fully investigate.

According to sources close to the McCanns, Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, has ordered officials to examine the 'feasibility' of British or Portuguese detectives looking afresh at all the evidence.

Kate and Gerry McCann met with Mr Johnson last year to plead for help in their search for Madeleine, who vanished without trace in May 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

The couple have also met with John Yates, the Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner, who has headed up a number of high profile inquiries in recent years.

He is said to be "sympathetic" and to have made "general offers of assistance".

The source said: "The latest we have heard from the Home Office is officials are undertaking a 'scoping exercise' to look into the possibility of a review of the case.

"They are looking at all the options. It is basically a feasibility study.

"Kate and Gerry met with Alan Johnson to request a review is done. Hopefully any political intervention can unlock obstructions that might be in the way."

Pressure is now being put on Portuguese authorities to agree in the first instance to a three-day review of the case that could be held at Interpol's headquarters in Lyon in France.

The McCanns will hope the Home Office can persuade their Portuguese counterparts to co-operate in a case review.

The review – were it to go ahead – would involve British police working with Portuguese counterparts as well as experts in child abduction across other European forces.

The Portuguese police have been heavily criticised for their handling of the case which led to detectives naming the McCanns, both doctors from Leicestershire, as arguidos – or suspects – in the case and accusing them of involvement in her disappearance.

Their arguido status was subsequently lifted and the police investigation shelved.

But with the senior officer in charge Goncalo Amaral now widely discredited and facing financial ruin after being sued for libel by the McCanns over a book he wrote, it may become harder for the Portuguese to refuse the request for a thorough review.

The revelation that possible leads – many passed to Portuguese police by the McCanns' own private detectives – had apparently been ignored will add to the clamour.

Last week, details emerged of a series of possible sightings of Madeleine, who was just three when she vanished.

Guilhermino Encarnacao, who was in charge of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, died two weeks ago from stomach cancer.

Mr Encarnacao was convinced Madeleine had died in her parents' apartment and was a major source of a series of off the record briefings to journalists against the McCanns.


A Home Office spokesman said: "We can confirm that the Home Secretary had a private meeting with Kate and Gerry McCann.

"Leicestershire Police stand ready to co-ordinate and complete enquiries if further information comes to light in the UK; or if requested to do so by the Portuguese authorities, who continue to lead on the overall investigation."

The spokesman refused to discuss what talks took place at the meeting or whether there was the chance of a review of the evidence at Interpol.

The spokesman added: "We are not going to comment on the outcome of any private meeting with the McCanns."

Mr Yates was unavailable for comment. He led the cash for honours investigation and was also involved in a new inquiry into the murder of Julie Ward, who was murdered in Kenya in 1988.
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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2013, 04:46:14 PM »
A further obstacle was removed with the death from stomach cancer two weeks ago of Guilhermino Encarnacao, who was in charge of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve.

Mr Encarnacao was convinced Madeleine had died in her parents' apartment and was a major source of a series of off the record briefings to journalists against the McCanns.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post97436.html#p97436

you see some capture articlea before  theyare changed

Daily Telegraph

Home Office launches secret review into Madeleine McCann's disappearance

The Home Office has secretly begun a review that could lead to a fresh police inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

By Robert Mendick
Published: 9:00PM GMT 06 Mar 2010


Missing Madeleine McCann Photo: PA

The move follows the release of 2,000 pages of evidence last week which Portuguese detectives are accused of having failed to fully investigate.

According to sources close to the McCanns, Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, has ordered officials to examine the 'feasibility' of British or Portuguese detectives looking afresh at all the evidence.

'Madeleine McCann leads ignored'

Kate and Gerry McCann met with Mr Johnson last year to plead for help in their search for Madeleine, who vanished without trace in May 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

The couple have also met with John Yates, the Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner, who has headed up a number of high profile inquiries in recent years.

He is said to be "sympathetic" and to have made "general offers of assistance".

The source said: "The latest we have heard from the Home Office is officials are undertaking a 'scoping exercise' to look into the possibility of a review of the case.

"They are looking at all the options. It is basically a feasibility study.

"Kate and Gerry met with Alan Johnson to request a review is done. Hopefully any political intervention can unlock obstructions that might be in the way."

Pressure is now being put on Portuguese authorities to agree in the first instance to a three-day review of the case that could be held at Interpol's headquarters in Lyon in France.

The McCanns will hope the Home Office can persuade their Portuguese counterparts to co-operate in a case review.

The review – were it to go ahead – would involve British police working with Portuguese counterparts as well as experts in child abduction across other European forces.

The Portuguese police have been heavily criticised for their handling of the case which led to detectives naming the McCanns, both doctors from Leicestershire, as arguidos – or suspects – in the case and accusing them of involvement in her disappearance.

Their arguido status was subsequently lifted and the police investigation shelved.

But with the senior officer in charge Goncalo Amaral now widely discredited and facing financial ruin after being sued for libel by the McCanns over a book he wrote, it may become harder for the Portuguese to refuse the request for a thorough review.

The revelation that possible leads – many passed to Portuguese police by the McCanns' own private detectives – had apparently been ignored will add to the clamour.

Last week, details emerged of a series of possible sightings of Madeleine, who was just three when she vanished.

A further obstacle was removed with the death from stomach cancer two weeks ago of Guilhermino Encarnacao, who was in charge of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve.

Mr Encarnacao was convinced Madeleine had died in her parents' apartment and was a major source of a series of off the record briefings to journalists against the McCanns.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We can confirm that the Home Secretary had a private meeting with Kate and Gerry McCann.

"Leicestershire Police stand ready to co-ordinate and complete enquiries if further information comes to light in the UK; or if requested to do so by the Portuguese authorities, who continue to lead on the overall investigation."

The spokesman refused to discuss what talks took place at the meeting or whether there was the chance of a review of the evidence at Interpol.

The spokesman added: "We are not going to comment on the outcome of any private meeting with the McCanns."

Mr Yates was unavailable for comment. He led the cash for honours investigation and was also involved in a new inquiry into the murder of Julie Ward, who was murdered in Kenya in 1988.
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Offline Benice

Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #109 on: July 28, 2013, 04:49:57 PM »
Insider is a long standing member of this forum with a proven track record for revealing inside information.   What I would like to know is why are you so threatened by him??  @)(++(*

I'm not threatened by him at all  - I find his secretive' ''I know something you don't know'' posts quite comical.  Is his other name  'The Black Shadow?   8(>((

Now listen carefully I shall only say this once:   Why doesn't he just tell us what he thinks instead of creeping in and out of the thread dropping veiled hints.  LOL


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2013, 04:55:30 PM »
Writing but with the senior officer in charge Goncalo Amaral now widely discredited and facing financial ruin after being sued for libel by the McCanns over a book he wrote, it may become harder for the Portuguese to refuse the request for a thorough review reveals some intellectual disturbance.

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #111 on: July 28, 2013, 05:01:17 PM »
I'm not threatened by him at all  - I find his secretive' ''I know something you don't know'' posts quite comical.  Is his other name  'The Black Shadow?   8(>((

Now listen carefully I shall only say this once:   Why doesn't he just tell us what he thinks instead of creeping in and out of the thread dropping veiled hints.  LOL
It would be "comical", eventually, if Insider had just pretended to know what others didn't. But this is not what s/he said. Insider said we should try to join the dots. This is totally different. Too many informations kill the information. Lots of elements in this mystery have no relevance at all and function like trees hiding the forest.

Offline Carana

Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #112 on: July 28, 2013, 05:15:36 PM »
So do you have an example of a three year old taken by a stranger and returned years later? Surely, if  they were it would make the NEWS


Sometimes they do. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326175/Chinese-man-abducted-5-year-old-reunited-parents-using-GOOGLE-MAPS.html

Offline Benice

Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #113 on: July 28, 2013, 05:22:59 PM »
From Wikipaedia


Steven Gregory Stayner (April 18, 1965 – September 16, 1989) was an American kidnap victim. Stayner was abducted from the Northern California city and county of Merced, California at the age of seven and held until he was 14, when he escaped and rescued another victim, Timothy White, in 1980. Stayner died in 1989 in a motorcycle accident while driving home from work.
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Timothy White was 5 when he was abducted.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #114 on: July 28, 2013, 05:29:20 PM »

Sometimes they do. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326175/Chinese-man-abducted-5-year-old-reunited-parents-using-GOOGLE-MAPS.html
This little boy was snatched not from bed but on his way to the creche by a professional abductor in order to be sold to a family who had no boy. It seems this practice was not unusual at the time. As you know families were limited to one child and every family wanted a boy in order to be sustained in their old days.

Rachel Granada

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #115 on: July 28, 2013, 05:33:58 PM »
From Wikipaedia


Steven Gregory Stayner (April 18, 1965 – September 16, 1989) was an American kidnap victim. Stayner was abducted from the Northern California city and county of Merced, California at the age of seven and held until he was 14, when he escaped and rescued another victim, Timothy White, in 1980. Stayner died in 1989 in a motorcycle accident while driving home from work.
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Timothy White was 5 when he was abducted.

I'd forgotten about Steven - watched a dramatization a few years ago.  So very sad that Steven was killed in an accident after being reunited with his family.  Steven was a very brave young man.

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Offline Mo Stache

Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #117 on: July 28, 2013, 05:40:36 PM »
And again, no one said that

Eta still you cant just blank all statistics, and many are kept in cases of missing people as it is a worldwide phenomenon, unlike some rabid muslim beheading someone inthe uk street whichis rarer than rare
Would you like to produce a stat that shows all 3 year olds abducted while on holiday from their beds are as a result of parent murder-involvement-coverup.

Offline Mo Stache

Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #118 on: July 28, 2013, 05:42:57 PM »
This little boy was snatched not from bed but on his way to the creche by a professional abductor in order to be sold to a family who had no boy. It seems this practice was not unusual at the time. As you know families were limited to one child and every family wanted a boy in order to be sustained in their old days.
I'm sure whoever abducted Madeleine had their motive/s to do so as well.

Redblossom

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Re: Abduction versus Accident
« Reply #119 on: July 28, 2013, 05:49:31 PM »
Would you like to produce a stat that shows all 3 year olds abducted while on holiday from their beds are as a result of parent murder-involvement-coverup.

No will leave that to you


good luck as there ARE no statistics of any 3 yr olds being foundafter years murdered or not, ie NONE
Cheers
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