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Rachel Granada

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« Reply #105 on: August 01, 2013, 08:34:47 PM »
Are you saying Amaral,  got all that info from the detectives before breakfast. He had made his mind up before any various events came together. He was in court being made an arguido at 6 pm, on the 4th May, so he sure worked fast! IMOOC!

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« Reply #106 on: August 01, 2013, 08:37:34 PM »

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« Reply #107 on: August 01, 2013, 09:24:04 PM »
I think you need to retract your claim that Sky News were called before the police, John,  It is just not true.

I never mentioned telephoning the British Press but it is known that it was the McCann family back in the UK who contacted the media a short time after Madeleine's disappearance was discovered and spread the falsehood that the shutter had been forced. 

Señor Amaral certainly made the claim that the family were more concerned with contacting the media than they were with contacting the police.  Thus his assertion that they contacted the UK media before contacting the police.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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« Reply #108 on: August 01, 2013, 09:40:48 PM »
Are you saying Amaral,  got all that info from the detectives before breakfast. He had made his mind up before any various events came together. He was in court being made an arguido at 6 pm, on the 4th May, so he sure worked fast! IMOOC!

I stated very precisely what his thoughts were both at breakfast time and as the day came to an end.  I have no need to repeat myself!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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« Reply #109 on: August 01, 2013, 09:50:31 PM »
I never mentioned telephoning the British Press but it is known that it was the McCann family back in the UK who contacted the media a short time after Madeleine's disappearance was discovered and spread the falsehood that the shutter had been forced. 

Señor Amaral certainly made the claim that the family were more concerned with contacting the media than they were with contacting the police.  Thus his assertion that they contacted the UK media before contacting the police.

Another Amaral lie, John. Rachel Oldfield contacted the BBC around midnight. If I'm correct, A family friend staying at the Healy's, at the time also contacted someone she knew, too. It was the press that contacted the family's, in the following days.

If Amaral made the claim that the family were more concerned with contacting the media, then why did he ask permission to do the same on the 4th May, with photo's of Madeleine?
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« Reply #110 on: August 01, 2013, 10:13:35 PM »
To the MP and not to the PJ belongs the decision to launch a call for witnesses with the photo of the missing person. In certain cases the MP had to consult the judge.

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« Reply #111 on: August 01, 2013, 10:16:59 PM »
Yes and he got his reply the same day ?>)()<
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« Reply #112 on: August 01, 2013, 11:14:57 PM »
Yes and he got his reply the same day ?>)()<

And IIRC  the PJ press release mentioned the mark in Madeleine's eye.
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AnneGuedes

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« Reply #113 on: August 02, 2013, 12:33:24 AM »
Possibly suggested by Mr McCann, sure "it was a good ploy.”

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« Reply #114 on: August 02, 2013, 01:36:51 AM »
Possibly suggested by Mr McCann, sure "it was a good ploy.”
Erm?  ... A good ploy?

What do you mean Anne?


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« Reply #115 on: August 02, 2013, 07:48:14 AM »
Erm?  ... A good ploy?

What do you mean Anne?

Yes according to Gerry in a vanity fair interview:

Although initially reluctant, the McCanns finally informed the media of Madeleine’s unique right eye—a risky revelation. Whoever had taken the child now held a universally recognizable little girl.

Gerry understood that. But, he says, the iris “is Madeleine’s only true distinctive feature. Certainly we thought it was possible that this could potentially hurt her or”—he grimaces—“her abductor might do something to her eye.… But in terms of marketing, it was a good ploy.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/02/mccanns200802

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« Reply #116 on: August 02, 2013, 07:56:58 AM »
Yes according to Gerry in a vanity fair interview:

Although initially reluctant, the McCanns finally informed the media of Madeleine’s unique right eye—a risky revelation. Whoever had taken the child now held a universally recognizable little girl.

Gerry understood that. But, he says, the iris “is Madeleine’s only true distinctive feature. Certainly we thought it was possible that this could potentially hurt her or”—he grimaces—“her abductor might do something to her eye.… But in terms of marketing, it was a good ploy.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/02/mccanns200802

From Gerry Mccann.........................................

'.. a good marketing ploy..'

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« Reply #117 on: August 02, 2013, 12:04:43 PM »
If that is what he said, it is an unfortunate choice of words, but we all use the wrong words occasionally.

What he meant was publicize ... very likely he had been given advice by people who specialize in publicizing things and they would commonly use the term marketting, because much of their publicizing was about marketting.

Unfortunately seems he latched on to their words.

We all do that sort of thing from time to time



You are making something out of nothing here

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« Reply #118 on: August 02, 2013, 12:34:14 PM »
If that is what he said, it is an unfortunate choice of words, but we all use the wrong words occasionally.

What he meant was publicize ... very likely he had been given advice by people who specialize in publicizing things and they would commonly use the term marketting, because much of their publicizing was about marketting.

Unfortunately seems he latched on to their words.

We all do that sort of thing from time to time



You are making something out of nothing here

No I'm not.

It says everything about the mind set of the Mccanns.

i.e. MONEY.

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« Reply #119 on: August 02, 2013, 12:34:53 PM »
If that is what he said, it is an unfortunate choice of words, but we all use the wrong words occasionally.

What he meant was publicize ... very likely he had been given advice by people who specialize in publicizing things and they would commonly use the term marketting, because much of their publicizing was about marketting.

Unfortunately seems he latched on to their words.

We all do that sort of thing from time to time



You are making something out of nothing here

Actually Sadie the advice from all the experts regarding missing children is that to give them the best chance of being found you have to basically 'advertise' them - as you would any other product you wanted the public to know about.     

One of the best examples of that IMO is having their faces on milk cartons - imagine the millions of people who would see them that way.   I'm not sure that has ever been done in the UK - if not I wonder why not - as it seems a brilliant idea to me.   Other ways are to see their faces on billboards or projected onto buildings by laser.   'Marketing' may sound a harsh term to use, but if that is the best approach, and more likely to get results than any other way - then any parent of a missing child is going to want to do it.

I read an article once from 'the experts' giving exactly this advice.  When I get time I'll see if I can find it.









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