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AnneGuedes

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #120 on: August 03, 2013, 02:45:06 PM »
Anne:  ever since I've "known" you, you have exhibited a marked animosity towards Britain, her institutions, her people.  Not quite to the point of xenophobia, as with the poster Luz, but there nevertheless.  Far from such an attitude being hurtful to those of us who are British on this forum, it indicates an inferiority complex on your part; what I described as a "chip on the shoulder" in my previous post.

You would be a healthier and happier person if you would make an effort to get over this.

In terms of the McCann case that we are all interested in, just accept that Scotland Yard (despite the efforts of the British sceptics on this forum to criticise), are better resourced and experienced than is the case with the PJ, and just may, with Portuguese goodwill and co-opertion, be able to supply some definitive answers - even solve it altogether.

Surely, whether pro or anti, we ALL want this?
This "whether pro or anti" sounds restrictive, don't you think, Chinagirl ?
And I appreciate your caring for my health and happiness !

AnneGuedes

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #121 on: August 03, 2013, 02:58:33 PM »
I am British through and through and I absolutely agree with Anne's posts. Does that make me a xenophobe ? The slurs and smears foisted on the Portuguese people, their legal system and their police have been nothing short of disgraceful. This case has brought out the very worst of xenophobic reactions from the UK's press and people and has actually made me ashamed of my mother country.
When you feel more citizen of the world than nationalist you have plenty of occasions to feel ashamed !

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #122 on: August 03, 2013, 04:26:46 PM »
I fear anyone holding out hope that SY will do any better than the PJ did in their own country will be sadly disappointed.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #123 on: August 03, 2013, 04:36:43 PM »
I fear anyone holding out hope that SY will do any better than the PJ did in their own country will be sadly disappointed.
Can SY afford arousing disappointment ?

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #124 on: August 03, 2013, 04:44:45 PM »
Can SY afford arousing disappointment ?

It will all fizzle out in time Anne like most unsolved cases.  The sad thing though is that nobody is looking for Madeleine any more and that includes her own parents.

It is clear that priorities have changed for some!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2013, 04:48:05 PM »
I fear anyone holding out hope that SY will do any better than the PJ did in their own country will be sadly disappointed.

one thing they may well do is rule out the parents.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2013, 05:03:53 PM »
It will all fizzle out in time Anne like most unsolved cases.  The sad thing though is that nobody is looking for Madeleine any more and that includes her own parents.

It is clear that priorities have changed for some!
I don't agree with you, John, the difference is the parents have the Met now investigating, instead of the dubious PIs they successively contracted.

Offline John

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2013, 06:33:41 PM »
I don't agree with you, John, the difference is the parents have the Met now investigating, instead of the dubious PIs they successively contracted.

But the thing is Anne, the dubious PI's could go anywhere and use any means as long as it was technically within the law whereas SY cannot. They cannot investigate anyone in Portugal, all they can do is suggest leads to the PJ and that I am afraid is where it will all come tumbling down.

Do you honestly believe for a moment that the PJ are going to be the means of their own discredit?
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Rachel Granada

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #128 on: August 03, 2013, 06:41:47 PM »
But the thing is Anne, the dubious PI's could go anywhere and use any means as long as it was technically within the law whereas SY cannot. They cannot investigate anyone in Portugal, all they can do is suggest leads to the PJ and that I am afraid is where it will all come tumbling down.

Do you honestly believe for a moment that the PJ are going to be the means of their own discredit?

I have faith in SY team John! I would echo your "dubious" about Metodo3, but I do think that Dave Edgar and Arthur Cowley were genuine investigators who really wanted to help find Madeleine.  JMO.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #129 on: August 03, 2013, 07:13:20 PM »
Although they did not get a conviction SY did a good job in getting to the truth about what happened to Julie Ward in Kenya.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #130 on: August 03, 2013, 07:53:11 PM »
But the thing is Anne, the dubious PI's could go anywhere and use any means as long as it was technically within the law whereas SY cannot. They cannot investigate anyone in Portugal, all they can do is suggest leads to the PJ and that I am afraid is where it will all come tumbling down.

Do you honestly believe for a moment that the PJ are going to be the means of their own discredit?
38 suspects after more than 2 years and 35 or so police officers working full time ! It is not yet the idea I have of the Met discrediting the PJ.
Moreover the discredit started 6 years ago and, according to some posts I read on this forum, is still very vivid ! How could it be worse ?
My guess is the PJ will respond scrupulously (at least they are courteous) to the Met's requests in the legal limits. Have a look at the rogatory mission interviews, switching the roles.

Rachel Granada

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #131 on: August 03, 2013, 07:58:42 PM »
Although they did not get a conviction SY did a good job in getting to the truth about what happened to Julie Ward in Kenya.

Good post, davel.